ings you' doi to ange t b hepesent day,e mes t wi thi nwide of what ere oin o , wee ing del the plemtatileyou ck up a catastrophic policy, let's roll back a few weeks when he id that the reason that you had to have the obamacare policy was because of what people had before, it was junk insurance. melissa: you thought you liked it, but it was actually a terrible policy you should not hav had. >> right. and did he get better allof a sudden? >> no, if it's a du policy, it's a junk policy. and so i think the president has talked himself into a deep hole. and whatever he does, it is not going to fix it becaushe keeps changing his own tune and position. melissa: i always go back to the math. there's a lotf people that signed up because they were thrilled and desperate and willing to sit through whatever it took on the website because they didn't have any health care. but right now, who are paying for those people? >> the taxpayers will pay for it. you will be heavily subsidized. but the 15% that we thought we would keep hearing, a lot of those just didn't want it. but there are people from oba