it's -- life has a range, as a plentitude. yes, i like to be a pioneer and a pragmatist. i like to be a creator but i like to respect tradition. all of that. that's what it is to be human. we have a left hand. we have a right hand. we have two feet. that's the way we make it. if you try to do it on one side of your mind or soul it won't work. >> so you feel that have you evolved as far as your thinking? >> i hope i have -- the absence of evolution is death and extinction so yes. i'm evolving because i'm still alive and hopefully that will continue for a while, a while after this. >> talk about a while after this. is this really the end of 50 years of public life? you're leaving with a $15 million political action committee fund. will you spend it? >> i'll spend it and i can spend it for candidates or against candidates. in unlimited sums. i can do the same thing on ballot measures. state or local. so i'm going to judge carefully, consult with people but i think whether it's climate or prison reform or candidates, i've a role to play and i have an enormous amount of experi