and if you read plessey versus ferguson, read harlow's dissent, it is a fabulous, fabulous short position that i think just nails it. it is wonderfully done. not only does he show how to be a judge by separating personal views, he shows the intent. the dual citizenship of state and national government, and you have doctrines like the doctrine for corporations. the bill of rights applied to the states. if you look at the constitution, the first amendment says that congress should make no law -- it does not apply to the states. but it does not apply when we know it today. i am sure other things have happened. when you look at the big games and the civil-rights era,

sheet loses before plessey versus ferguson indicias aware that things are going in the wrong direction and what she does with could journalism is to monitor what is happening to the status of african-americans in her region. >> host: so through her work she is become known for anti-lynching crusade. how did she first get interested in that as a political issue that it becomes a passion of her life? >> guest: that also comes to her through things that have been to her. restaurants during a time when wells is not actually an nablus at this time she is part owner of a newspaper called the free speech she is off traveling and selling subscriptions and when she is away and 1892, a group of black boys and white boys were playing marbles and they begin to squabble and as a white father of the one of the boys whips the victorious black people eventually the dispute moves to a local black establishment called the people's grocery store. that included gunshots and after that to there is a white mob terrorizing black memphis for several days and at the end of that period, when there were at least

and if you read plessey versus ferguson, read harlow's dissent, it is a fabulous, fabulous short position that i think just nails it. it is wonderfully done. not only does he show how to be a judge by separating personal views, he shows the intent. the dual citizenship of state and national government, and you have doctrines like the doctrine for corporations. the bill of rights applied to the states. if you look at the constitution, the first amendment says that congress should make no law -- it does not apply to the states. but it does not apply when we know it today. i am sure other things have happened. when you look at the big games and the civil-rights era, etc., all lot of it was for the 14th amendment. so i would have to say. >> you have actually given us a little insight already, but how did your experiences affect you as a person? . . >> i have an opportunity to do things with my bride. we go to football games or we go motor homing. and you try to be as normal as possible with all the security considerations. and i like that. i miss that part of life more than anything else. tha