it's time for pligs to come out their office. it's time for us to go down and st this madness. >> to discuss all of this further, i'm now joined by politics and government reporter katie who joins us from sacramento. alsoso a public policy prof jack laser and a civil rights attorney john brew th. nk you for being here. katie, i want to begin with you. the family had requested an independent autopsy. those results wereed rele today. what did that autopsy find? >> yes. their independent found that stephon clark was shot eight times. five of those times he was shot in the back. he was sh once in the side, and once in the dmek, and then -- neck and then once in the thigh. >> who do the findings suggea ut the police officer's narrative about what happened that night? >> well, thettorneys for clark's family say that that suggests that the police offic ns'rative is not right. we have been told they feared for his life, that he was approaching them. they thought he had a weapon, but this report would indicate that he was largely standing

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achieved theirland or we would concede that they have escalated to the point where they achieved their plig objeol objectives. in my opinion, it kiconvinces tt we have capable responses. no matter what they do, they will be met with a capable response and there is no circumstance under which that they will do something where the cost they pay will be xwragreat what they hope to gain. >> and we also hear calls to give up our responsiveness. do you believe that that would be a wise path for us to pursue? >> i don't. and that particular issue as you know has been looked at in several posture reviews. in fact the determination has been made that it is more stabilizing to leave them in alert. because in a crisis, if you then alerted them, you would by definition perhaps create unstable conditions. >> thank you both. i yield back. >> mr. banks. >> thank you gentlemen for being here today. on august 21 of 2017, many of us championed and welcomed this administration's change in strategy and focus to win in afghanistan to create a safe and secure afghanistan. general dunford, last summer fy '18 post