plo it was not able _ that, as i said, the plo plo it was not able to— that, as i said, the plo plohere. _ establishment. the us envoy has arrived there. how _ establishment. the us envoy has arrived there. how optimistic - establishment. the us envoy has arrived there. how optimistic or i arrived there. how optimistic or otherwise are you about that? history shows that once egypt, qatar. — history shows that once egypt, qatar, money and diplomacyjump in and the _ qatar, money and diplomacyjump in and the united states is giving legitimacy to negotiations with hamas — legitimacy to negotiations with hamas. as you know, victoria, hamas is still— hamas. as you know, victoria, hamas is still on _ hamas. as you know, victoria, hamas is still on the — hamas. as you know, victoria, hamas is still on the terrorist list both in the — is still on the terrorist list both in the eu — is still on the terrorist list both in the eu and i think your country as well, — in the eu and i think your country as well, and _ in the eu and i think your country as well, and the united states. so while _ as

the right wing does not like the plo more than it likes hamas, while the left would argue the plo israel's better option. this is really complicated. maybe the current equilibrium of hamas, gaza and yelled out the west bank is the best political solution for keeping this coalition for a long time. >> thank you very much for joining us from the hebrew university of jerusalem. the possible new coalition about to take shape of some description in israel. next, the former president will return to the ivory coast on june 17 after 10 years following his acquittal of crimes against humanity during the civil war. announcing the return of the president june 17. these the words of the secretary-general of the popular front already. the party founded to him. he was president of the ivory coast until 2011. he refused to accept defeat, sparking the civil conflict. he was acquitted of war tight -- war crimes at the hague in 2019. let's bring in our correspondent for more on this. good evening to you. what could this mean for him, for about -- for ivory coast? give this a sense of what this means.

is divided, terrorist organization, the settlements are a forward defense against terrorists and the plo and go ahead and settle with the west bank. that is a national imperative for israel acrding to the nation state law of 2018 and israel poly. for hamas, their main goal is to take over the palestinian national movement, to take over the pa and the plo and to exercise control in all the palestinian areas and dominate the national movement. for them, this violence is the main competitive advantage in domestic palestinian politics. they claim they lead the struggle, they force the israelis to pay a price, they strike back and defend jerusalem and the koran and the flag and the arabs and the muslims and all that stuff. then the others look impotent and supine by comparison because they d't fight israelis. for israel, they are in search of more land. this routine of death and destruction is very helpful. >> you mentioned the plo and others, the four-year mandate, almost 20 years he has been president, the recent elections called off because hamas were about to win. >> we will never have an

if you recall in 1988, the plo agreed or accepted the two important u.n.esolutions 242 and 338, and that came following the peace agreement that egypt had with the israelis, and also the arab states has been recognizing plo as the only legitimate representative of the palestinian people, and then the separation that happened with jordan in the occupied territories to pass that. that has led them into a role which sort of kick starts the oslo peace agreement in 1993, which was seen as a process. the hope that the process would lead them into an end to the conflict. instead, it has ended as a process, have made many compromises and the return has been negligible. as far as they are concerned, and has been the opposite. they have lost their land. there is no practical way of having the two state solution because of that fragmented organization. anchor: we have this ongoing apartheid which is a daily factor of life, we have the latest bout of aggression in gaza, what elements of what we are seeing in gaza might constitute war crimes? >> every state has the rig

perhaps you mean the plo or the - you mean the plo or the palestinian authority.mp. the palestinian authority. though i think it's a good step in which the us, together with the un and with the palestinian authority and other members of the international community, work to alleviate the suffering of ordinary people in gaza who live under the oppression of hamas. i think it's very important and his comments did not were a step in the right direction. that will require a lot of work and it won't be easy. when you still have hamas around, governing the gaza strip and using methods of oppression and violence, but this is an opportunity perhaps to try and strengthen the palestinian authority, give it a roll and perhaps advanced and better the lives of ordinary people in gaza.— better the lives of ordinary people in gaza. how do you think this — people in gaza. how do you think this was _ people in gaza. how do you think this was agreed? - people in gaza. how do you | think this was agreed? what changed about the conflict that both sides said, ok, we are both sides said

it's the plo that has been based on the concept, the notion of popular democracy.n able to do what we have done in the international arena. i wouldn't have an office here and an embassy representing palestinians. no—one cares about democracy more than us. and we do not consider democracyjust to be a way of renewing our political system. no, we look at democracy as a resistance tool. and hear it from me, it is the way, when our people cast their vote, it is also a national vote to rid ourselves of the military occupation, and we understand the significance of the convening of elections. yet there are issues. so, we have been convening elections only in the arab region all these years... you haven't had an election since 2006. we have real issues. we cannot convene elections without gaza, 2 million of our people, including my own family, and divisions happen. hamas took control of the strip. there has been numerous attempts at resolving. and then, when we decided to run the elections last, israel started to play with its words. they did not want to have elections inj

they have managed to do what all arab countries and the plo, headed by the legendary yasser arafat, haveis to unite the palestinians in israel, the west bank, gaza and around the world against israel. they have managed to send israelis to shelters and to hide for almost a week and we are talking now about kind of an attrition war and this is something that, as i said, the plo was not able to do since its establishment. 0k, and what hope do you give for diplomatic efforts? the us envoy has arrived there. how optimistic or otherwise are you about that? history shows that once egypt, qatar, with money and diplomacy jump in, the united states is giving legitimacy to negotiations with hamas... as you know hamas is still on the terrorist list within the eu, in europe, i think in your country as well, and the united states, so while israel is, for instance, allowing qatar to channel hundreds of millions of american dollars to gaza, which were partly used to buy this infrastructure, military infrastructure, that is now used to attack israel, while israel was turning a blind eye to this or even g

another element here is the demonization of hamas which follows a playbook that we saw with the plo,ollows the playbook we saw with the african national congress, which follows the playbook we saw with the irish republican army back in the day. in every one of these case e the colonial power to avoid negotiating, really negotiating, paints and demonizes its enemy in the way israel has systematically demonized hamas. i don't advocate violence. do not talk to those engaged in the violence means you don't want to settle the conflict, and that is what the demonization of hamas as the demonization of the ira and the plo and africa was meant to do. in those cases a more statesmanlike approach finally prevailed. the clerk sat with ira and rabin sat down with arafat, and that is what this israeli government is not willing to do. >> thank you so much, professor khalidi, and i want to say that we have reached out for the last couple of days, reached out to israel's leaders including the prime minister. it is a jewish holiday, a religious holiday and they are not available today and we are hopi

it started out between an unofficial meeting between plo officials and two israeli professors.e with them. but the manor became one of several sites in norway where israelis and palestinians lived under one roof, eating meals together, living and laughing, sometimes into the night. the group, who once shared a mutual hatred for one another developed mutual respect. eventually they pulled off what no one thought was possible. they drafted an agreement that would become the oslo according. in the document the israelis and palestinians acknowledged the other right's to exist. they were signed on a september, sunny day at the white house. yitzhak rabin and yasser arafat shook hands with bill clinton standing nearby. it was an inspiring moment for the world. in 1702, the original mansion was swept into the river by a massive landslide and maybe that foreshadowed the fate of the oslo according. the meeting sparked hope that two sworn adversaries could find common ground. it was the closest israelis and palestinians had gotten to peace. like the mansion, it, too, was swept away by a t

mediated talks between israel and the plo at the madrid conference.is good to see you. >> thank you. i did want to say i resigned from the plo committee at the end of 2020. >> thank you for clarifying that. you have history a lot of people don't have. peace between the palestinians and israelis seemed close in the 1990s. it seemed close again in 2000 and beyond. where is it now? is there a viability of taking the stuff that you had discussed and negotiated in the past and using it as a basis for peace or are we long past that being a possibility? >> the problem is when we started negotiations in 1991, our whole process was based on international law. it was based on legality. it was based on parity or justice. our objective was very clear, and then the occupation and establishing an independent democratic viable palestinian state on 22% of all of historical palestine. israel was established on 78%. the territory that israel occupied in 1967. unfortunately, that so-called peace process was highjacked and used in order to maintain israel in power, to ma

would really help to unify the palestinian people, to bring together the palestinian authority, the plority. one of the things i think we will have to note here is that this conflict, as previous rounds have as well, has really further weakened the moderates, has further weakened fatah which looks completely impotent through all of this and, of course, it was hamas that inserted itself into the conflict that was happening in eastjerusalem as the protector when fatah was unable to do so, so unfortunately we have seen a real weakening of the moderates and that's something that the biden administration should absolutely address. biden�*s predecessor, donald trump, of course, was talking about the deal of the century which really offered israel, paraphrasing everything, its sword and very little for the palestinians, so what is the long—term solution here, bearing in mind, as you say, thatjoe biden and antony blinken did not want to focus on the palestinian conflict now, you know, their eyes are on other parts of the world? well, i think they are going to have to and, look, we recognise ful

office _ consulate injerusalem and the plo office in— consulate injerusalem and the plo office in washingtonrity. what was striking about secretary anthonv _ what was striking about secretary anthony blinken's trip to israel and the west— anthony blinken's trip to israel and the west bank today was the language he used _ the west bank today was the language he used in _ the west bank today was the language he used in talking about — and notice — he used in talking about — and notice the _ he used in talking about — and notice the order — the palestinians and the _ notice the order — the palestinians and the israelis having equal rights to dignity— and the israelis having equal rights to dignity and security, and some kind of— to dignity and security, and some kind of hope for the future. and i think— kind of hope for the future. and i think you've seen a dramatic shift in a very— think you've seen a dramatic shift in a very short period of time. it's still arguable whether the biden administration can actually jump—start a broader peace process. the president had talked about trying — the pr

. >> joel you were guest when i had gone over into ramallah to sit with plo top negotiator who died last year and he told me there was nothing to negotiate. he said president trump made jerusalem and recognized it as the capital of israel he said there was nothing left to talk about. he seemed at an impasse saying they weren't going to budge on anything and there was nothing to discuss. where are we as you live and work in that region? >> thank you shannon. it was great everything you here and i'm sorry we are a nation at war again. but your interview with erikat he passed from this world without an agreement with israel and there have been offers on the table an the palestinians haven't put one on the table but that's not the issue we are dealing w. you have to understand the west bank of the palestinian authority is separate from gaza. gaza is controlled by a trust organization hamas and i would disagree with my colleague on this program. there's no reason to knock israel's head against anything here. we are not the aggressor. 4,000 rockets everybody fired at us and the idea it's so re

ship collisions over the last few years, and we've sort of done more damage to our own navy than the plo navy could have hoped to do and when you look at warnings like leaders from admiral davidson that they could move with taiwan over the next few years, it is clear where they have the fait accompli where they have the new stabilize of the status quo. in any china scenario we can lose quick, but i don't think we can win quick. we have to play for time while we consolidate our forces all while extending munitions at a very high rate and unfortunately, taking very severe attrition and our current investor basis is simply not postured for this kind of surge production and i know that's an unpopular message to deliver, but that's what i've come to believe in setting this for the next few years. i think today is the 76th anniversary of the day. check me on that, i could be wrong, but if you saw what it took to win world war ii, the american defense industry produced about a hundred major combat transport, within 48 months, shortly before dday, 5200 aircraft per month. across society american

we cannot get an arrangement with the palestinian authority, whatever remains of the remnants of the plo, let's see how we can upgrade and at her and improve the situation on the ground -- upgrade and that are -- better and improve the situation on the ground. because we all have to get ready for the day after hamas. he is telling people and i am telling it before that his father died at 103 or something, and he is only 55, he is a midcareer politician. i hope he is correct in his diagnosis but i am not sure. we all have to get ready now to lay the groundwork for the morning-after. david: by the way, i think his mother was 103, and has said he has strong genes, but he did not live as long as his mother. genes are never a foolproof reason. ehud: my mother is 101. david: also, to discuss the endpoint narrative, apart from wanting to be the defender of jerusalem, apart from seeing the status quo under attack, they had a cease-fire with israel for three years, but to what extent is palestinian succession rate also a factor driving hamas? i want to get that but also a sense of what in game --

the reality is, there are two things, two governments, the plo, the traditional government, running thealestinians on the we have bank, and then hamas, the terrorist organization, running the gaza strip. we know they are incredibly corrupt. they pocket a lot of the aid we give and the rest goes to buying arms, weapons, and rockets, to then be able to attack our ally, israel. at the same time, you have the biden administration about to lift sanctions on the iranian regime, billions will flow into teheran, and then right back over to hamas to buy more rockets and more missiles, and the head of iran's irgc, their external special operations wing, has already said publicly, that that's exactly what he's going to do. once again, the left's reflexive response is to throw minute at a problem and it actually emboldens these groups and enboldens the dictatorships and destabilizes the region, and just, shannon, one more thing on the china piece, i'm introducing a bill tomorrow, believe it or not, the federal savings plan, the 401-k plan in our entire military is invest in the beijing stock market

this is possibly the fourth war between the israelis and hamas in gaza since hamas took over from the plo. a very tricky situation. obviously the political background is what's more important, but right now the idf has struck more than 350 targets in israel. there are hundreds of palestinian casualties. the hamas have fired a couple of thousand rockets at israel. they're got a lot more range. their biggest rocket will go 200 kilometers, so tel aviv is under attack for the first time. and the violence inside israel -- people forget, 20% of the population of israel is arab, and that doesn't include those without israeli passports in east jerusalem or elsewhere who just have residency. so this is a very bad situation. israelis now have three brigades mobilized. if they go into gaza, a couple of million palestinians packed in urban areas, they're right now using tank and artillery firele then we'll see casualies skyrocket to include the israelis. i don't think the israelis have a choice. their existential life in the middle east is at stake in these wars. >> general, i think it's fair to say

some of the tragic parts of this are that, you know, the palestinian, the plo is no longer weak and corruptt the end. i think some of the commentators and congressional voices that you did not play today calling for containment, calling for cease-fire, calling for longer conversation. we can't have peace talks right now we have to have a cease-fire. we have to think about all we have done in the past. president trump worked hard to move the embassy to jerusalem. the u.s. embassy and he worked hard for the abraham accords and they clearly did not advance the kind of are arrangement we would like to see between the palestinians and israelis. call for more sustained engage 789 by the u.s. we will have to see. i hope it doesn't come at the expense of a pivot to asia. that's where our focus has to be as a nation over the next 5, 10, 20, 2030 to 40 years. >> harold mentions trump administration policy whether they moved the embassy to jerusalem there was a lot of pushback including former secretary of state john kerry saying it was going to ignite the arab street. then, with the israel -- the abr

we defunded the palestinian authority which used to be the plo to a certain extent.iden administration has turned that back on. might the biden administration rethink that policy of refunding the palestinian authority after this? >> well, i don't see any sign of it, david. i do think that, i mean, thank god this violence or this latest go-round in gaza is over. hopefully the israel defense forces imposed enough sufficient damage on hamas that it'll think a hundred times before launching this kind of aggression again. but i do think this is a warning shot for the biden administration. it's got to be focused like a laser beam on the fact that this was a dry run for iran and its plans for a much, much larger and more devastating conflict against israel in the future. david: so despite that, we are -- the biden administration is thinking of renegotiating with iran for another nuclear deal which, of course, the last nuclear deal provided them with literally tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars or billions of dollars in many cases in terms of their oil sales. is it

organizations stop attacks like this they have to develop best in class -- or deploy best in class plos of palo alto or cloud strike it's the only way to stop an attack like this before the damage is done both palo alto and cloudstrike have best in class platforms that could have stopped this attack and also prevented the data once inside. >> typically how many months after an attacker or years after an attack like this do you actually see a crowdstrike or palo alto gain business? do you see it in the earnings results a quarter after or two quarters after do we see that kind of relationship or no >> well,i think you can go bac to a number of the historical tactics. solarwinds attack happened in december certainly palo alto and crowdstrike didn't see a near-term impact to their january quarter results but contributes to the pipeline build for both those companies we'll see them reporting results for the april quarter in a few weeks and both are actually, you know, seeing significantly better demand trends than they've seen last year at tis time in part driven by these attacks. this most

went in we went at their request because the war was going on in beirut between inbound real and the plo terrorists, and israel could not be blamed for that. then we went in with the multinational force to help remove and did remove more than 13,000 of those terrorists from lebanon, and we departed and the government of lebanon asked us back in as a stabilizing force while they established a government and sought to get the foreign forces all the way out of lebanon and that they could then take care of their own borders. we were succeeding. we were there for the better part of a year. our position happened to be at the airport, where there was occasional snipeings and artillery firing, but we did not engage in conflict that was out of line with our mission. i will never send troops anywhere on a mission of that kind without telling them if somebody shoots at them they can darn well shoot back, and this is what they did. we never initiated any kind of action. we defended ourselves there. but we were succeeding to the point where the lebanese government had meetings to try and put together

is this the plo in the middle of that or the palestinian authority trying to get some of its juice backresting point, david. this comes amid a very tumultuous time not own lid for the palestinian authority but also the israeli government. the political situation here is a mess. both sides of the border have been saying that. when you look around, the focus was on politics and not so much on conflict. but what started this recent round of violence has to do with two separate things. one the neighborhood in jerusalem, a neighborhood where palestinian families could face eviction if a court order currently being reviewed by the supreme court of israel is not overturned. the other issue has to do with ramadan, holy month for muslims. clashes that erupted at the mosque in jerusalem. we saw some of the most violent clashes in a decker cade happen in the holy city. factions inside of gaza warned israel the police didn't leave the compound they would fire on jerusalem. they did just that. david: the perfect storm, trey yingst thanks very much. appreciate it. >>> hollywood is meanwhile is cancel

hamas and the plo are both corrupt and effective political organizations.se level of suffering in part of the palestinians, as you mention, the palestinians no longer have strong support from saudi arabia, from egypt, from jordan, from other arab actors who have focused more on iranian shiite threat from across the perngs gulf. so i'm very pessimistic about the outcome of this latest flare-up in violence. >> all right, retired general barry mccaffrey, we greatly appreciate it. >> thank you, sir. >> we know it's a little early where you are. we greatly appreciate you waking up. it means a lot to us. mika? >> still ahead on "morning joe," there is no infrastructure deal just yet, but president biden and some republicans are expressing optimism after a meeting yesterday. we'll take a look at where those bipartisan talks stand. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. orning joe." we'll be right back. we've got 'em on the ropes. the billionaires buying elections. the corporate special interests poisoning campaigns with dark money, frantic to preserve

he is the former head of the plo mission to the united states. trying and terrible times. let me ask you first of all, there's talk in washington starting of a possible cease-fire. would you support a cease-fire in this back and forth war? >> of course i would support that. it's our people, the palestinian people who are as we speak now live on tv, are subject to an industrial scale mass murder of children and others. not only in gaza. it was in jerusalem before that. our people, palestinians are being targeted by mobs. we must end this immediately. we must end it now. we look forward to see more action by the international community. so far, there has been inaction, contradiction, including the u.s. and the biden administration. >> mr. prime minister, benjamin netanyahu was talking about missiles being fired into israel. i certainly know just following american history that if one missile were fired into this country from a foreign country, we would probably declare war at that moment. how should the israelis respond to the 3,000 missiles fired

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