we did this at the presidio with swords to plowshares. i know what i am talking about. i am in talks with the united states geological survey. i suggest that you get the latest map and perhaps bring an expert from the u.s. geological society so they can explain to you about the seismic conditions. thank you very much. >> good afternoon. jim lazarus, san francisco chamber of commerce. a lot of projects have been around for a long time. there was the library and playground expansion voted on 10 years ago. the executive park planning process started six years ago. this is the tops -- 18 years ago, when the navy announced there were going to leave treasure island. there has been a process of developing a plan to rebuild this island and make it a home to thousands of people, to make a commercial hub of employment again. this is not follow land. since the world's fair in 1929 and the navy moving in in 1941, thousands of people have lived and worked on this island safely every year. thousands of vehicles a day on or off treasure island. we have an opportunity now to remake the

american makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. but now we can no longer risk improvisation of national defense. we have been compelled to create a permanent industry of vast proportions. added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. we annually spend on security more than the net income of all united states corporations. this conjunction of a large arms industry is new in the american experience. the total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every statehouse, every office of the federal government. we recognize the imperative need for this development, yet we must not fail to comprehend its great implications. our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved. so is the very structure of our society. in the counsels of government, we must guard against the act i by decision of -- acquisition of unwarranted influence by the military industrial complex. the potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

you are literally taking a sword and turning into a plowshare. that program is going on in south carolina. i just want to thank the administration for being supportive of the program after some things being said and asked about the mox program i would like to get straight. again, do you believe that producing mox chill here in america makes sense, this overall safe and you recommend we continue to do so? >> well again, sir, when we cross the safety i need to go back to great but i certainly understand that the nonproliferation aspect -- >> it is huge, isn't? >> yes, sir. >> you are taking weapons grade plutonium off the market. do you support the mox program? >> we've done a very thorough analyses of the use of mox chill and right now all the information that indicates it can be used safely spent thank you very much for your testimony. >> thank you very much, senator graham. thank you so much. we will proceed to the next panel. i would ask the witnesses to come forward as quickly as you can come and staff to change name cards. g[inaudible convers