it's been around for a long time, swords to plowshares, so how did it get started?as started in 1974 by some vietnam veterans and vista volunteers to attempt to meet the needs of vietnam veterans that weren't -- who weren't being received so well by society or by the va, frankly, at that point in time. >> and what have you seen in terms of transition? and it's getting better or... >> oh, well, yeah, it's gotten much better. it's gotten much better, especially since 9/11. the acceptance and the welcoming home of veterans has -- i don't think we've seen that since world war ii. >> it's a lot different than vietnam, too. >> yes. >> for sure. so, when you started, you had to basically take this organization from nothing and then create -- now you have an amazing housing program. >> we have a housing program. we house close to 500 veterans in supportive housing every night. about two thirds of that is permanent housing. the rest is transitional. we also help veterans find housing. we help with eviction prevention. we help veterans access their benefits with free attorney

>> it has been cap terrorized by ruby and i -- characterized by plowshares, rolling and extended plowsharesction. amy: at the end of your statement on monday, standing in front of iowa utilities board office. can you explain its significance and why you then turned around and started ripping off the metal letters from that sign as the police moved in to arrest you? >> the our utilities board here in iowa granted the dakota permits using eminent domain as a public utility for this pipeline. so the company was allowed by the iowa chili's board to come in and seize land from farmers to put this ritual impact light underneath their fields. so the iowa utilities board here in iowa was he because to good -- dakota access and energy transfer partners for able to sidestep the impact statement. so each state had its governing body to either grant or deny these permits to build this pipeline. here in iowa, that was the iowa utilities board. it was granted under the guise, under the lie of a public utility. this past friday they released another decision yet again doing and ruling ing, favor of the da

. >> the vets that are coming back tuturning their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks, they are showing us, along with many others, that it is possible to create a fairr food system. and they're doing it. >> i really see in these veterans not just farmers but leaders of thehe farmers, leades of this next generation of farmers. they're articulate, they're focused, they're extremely entrepreneurial. they've taken on the mimilitary, anand they're taking g on agriculture. ththe'e taking on the two hardedest things in o our societyty, and they'y're not even 30 y years o. thehey're a amazing yououng mend women. >> i'm in such a bebetter mood. i f feel as thohough i have a g. there's light at the enend of te tutunnel. i've come to the conclusion that that''s exaxact it. i've sort of fofound some p peae and d contentment, a and it's en so long since i've had it that it felelt foreign to me, youou ? >> and a hundrered years from n, we look back at these times, there's gonna be someme profound things thahat are saidid about americans s living rigight now. and hopefully the

we want to turn these weapons into plowshares, we want to actually sell them off. we simply want to raise some cash. they said who can we sell them to? >> mr. goldberg oddly enough states we can't give you a list. clearly lockheed wasn't interested in buying unless they were trade-ins or others. neither was boeing. i've been through these hearings on country after country and we're going to see whether it's the palestinian authority, and including hamas. whether it's kwaet. we're going to keep having these hearings and always going to find one thing. money is leaking to bad people from within these countries, either by individuals or in fact there may be a nexus to the government in some way. what should this administration do under our auspices, i think mr. shandleer, you alluded to this. to make lists of who you can give to. to make lists of who you want out. how do we set, how do we get the administration to set solid predictable standards so we know it's not a mixed message? please. >> what i would saycy think we can say these people shouldn't be here or they s

country were trying to become a rich country and we have oil we want to turn these weapons into plowshares. we want to sell them off, we're not replacing them, we want to raise cash. they said can we sell them to? mr. goldberg, states that we can't give you a list. clearly, lucky wasn't interesting and bind them as they were trading and neither was bowing. my question to you is, each of you, i've been through these hearings on country after country and we are going to see whether it's the palestinian authority including hamas, whether it's kuwait, qatar, saudi arabia, will have these hearings and were always going to find one thing -- money is leaking too bad people from within these countries by individuals or, in fact, there may be a nexus to the government in some way. i want to know what each of you are prepared to do and should this administration do -- you alluded to this, to make lists of who you can give up you want out and to make lists -- in other words, how do we get the administration that has said solid, applicable standards so that we not it's so that we know it's not a mixed