that plucky young manmade his way down the river. [laughter] it's spirited or really courageous. i learned so much about the world through books. that was my artery out and was just generally still sort of anxious as a kid and shy. suddenly it was a conversation, the safest inthat ma sigh you can have, talking to this voice, and everybody else in my grades were reading books about horses or the babies that are there, there's 1,000 of these books. they are so boring, you guys. it's a bunch of girls baby sitting. i thought, oh, man, you better pay me to read this. [laughter] it's just two twins with romantic dramas, and that couldn't have been less interesting to me at that time. it was wonderful to find pippy long stalking or secret garden, anything with a female protagonist with a mental will to represent my own was intoxicating to me. i felt like my interactions in the real world were so scripted or i felt just flattened or just, you knowing like i lost a dimension because i was so shy, so to have these conversations with a book was really crucial. >> yeah, i loved also hair yet