plutonium is something that you don't just mine from the earth. you have to make plutonium. you can make plutonium for a nuclear bomb in basically two different ways. in nuclear power plants, after fuel rods uranium fuel rods are used to make nuclear power, they are called spent fuel rods. when they are spent fuel rods, they are freaking radioactive as all get out. that's part of why it's so anxiety producing to see the spent fuel rod pool totally screwed up at the fukushima power plant. that blew up in japan in 2011. spent fuel rods honestly are a little scary. they're a huge, dangerous nuclear waste problem and there are a ton of them at nuclear reactors all over the world that are just being piled up and piled up and piled up with nowhere to put them and everybody just hopes they are going to be safe. those spent fuel rods can also be reprocessed into plutonium. which can make a nuclear bomb. yay. that is another part of the deal with iran today. iran apparently does not now have the technology or know-how to make plutonium used in a bomb by reprocessing spent fuel from n

every reactor core produces some plutonium in the fuel rods. they would have been creating enough for two bombs a year. less than one kilogram, not if you have for a nuclear bomb. >> in terms of the objections raised by the israelis, one of the things i know both they and this country have talked about, is one of the facilities being unbombale. an underground facility that has been an enrichment facility. you couldn't enforce anything against it because it was too protected from even a military strike. >> right. here's another threat we can start to check off assuming this deal is implemented. fordow facility, deep underground. they really wanted the enrichment activities there to stop. that's what this deal does. we're going to leave some of the centrifuges, but they cannot be used for any uranium enrichment. they can be used for other gases for scientific purposes. that facility can never be used for uranium enrichment again. >> so much of these points of agreement, particularly that one, they depend on iran basically being inspectable, right

the exact ratio they take a pound of plutonium and turn it into almost a pound of plutonium. that's not a reduction. frost to want to follow into a bargain i am astonished. this is turned out to be a bad treaty. the key is we have got to prioritize. .. we still have to worry about lindsey graham in the senate conference that barring lindsey graham we are going to invest in the house and the senate. >> is 220 the amount asked in the budget request last year and is 220 p.m. annual amount projected for the rest of the out-years? >> there's another 100 million for maintenance. and we took the extra 125 million that i'm complaining about. let's not give them that extra. let's put a little bit of a break on this thing. this is more than any member of the committee has ever asked for in any project. $47 billion in one-time of south carolina and possibly $110 billion? this dwarfs the manhattan project and this adheres to an agreement that the russians have broken? give me a break. so let's reduce it. we can spend that money on refurbishing essential nuclear facilities most members of

plutonium. we don't know how many fuses this will allow iran to have and what this will require iran to do with stock pile of uranium fuel. we don't know what this means, the idea that sanctions will be lifted as gloria is talking about. quote, one implementation is confirmed. that could mean anything. the selling president obama has to do to congress and american people we aren't sure what he is going to be trying to sell. >> he will have to sell to congress and the american people and to the israeli government saudi government. there's a lot of concern in that part of the world about what's going on. this is a major diplomatic push he's going to have to undertake. there's no doubt the stakes now are enormous. in terms of body language looks like they're very excited. we're expecting to hear from the president in five to ten minutes as he walks out of the oval office into the rose garden. he's going to start that pitch right away and going to have to be very convincing jake. >> that's right. yo

there's the uranium and plutonium route to make a nuclear bomb. also signing up to the protocols of the international atomic agency which will carry out the inspections. then on sanction the eu and the u.s. to lift their sanctions and a new security council resolution. this we believe will all happen after june after the final work and all the details have been done which will then replace all existing u.n. security council resolutions with all those sanctions, a total of six resolutions. so very important things that have been decided here and some talk before that perhaps there would just be a statement and would that be enough would it be a framework agreement or not. i think it's a very important concession that's being made here by iran. we're going to hear from the other foreign ministers in a moment. let me just tell you that the u.s. secretary of state, john kerry, was on twitter and said a big day, the eu p5+1 and iran now have guarantees to resolve the remaining issues to deal with iran's nuclear program. and now they go back to work as

plutonium. the core of it's react for in iraq will be dismachbtled and replaced. the fuel from that facility will be shipped out of iran for the life of the reactor. iran will not build a new heavy water reactor ander rang will not reprocess fuel from its existing reactors, ever. second, this deal shuts down iran's path to a bomb using enriched uranium, iran agrees that it's installed centrifuges will be released by twifrds. iran will not enrich uranium for at least the next ten years. the vast majority of iran's stockpile of enriched uranium will be neutralized. today iran is only two or three months away from potentially acquiring the raw materials for a single nuke cheerclear bomb, under this deal iran has said that it will not stockpile the materials needed to build a weapon. even if it violated the deal, for the next decade at least iran would be a minimum of a year away from requiring enough material for a bomb. and the strict limitations on iran's stock pile will last for 15 years. third,

uranium, plutonium and covert. covert relies upon the transparency issues but i want to emphasize is that the iran will from day one start complying with something called the additional protocol. what this means they will have access not just to the deployed facilities but also to undeclared sites even sites that may not have nuclear materials. there will be a process a time limited process in which ones we establish the suspicion and go through that process iran will have very short time to grant that tack says or will be judged out of compliance. >> o'donnell: also in the news this morning the "new york times" reports that the fact sheets that were put out by the two countries that there are some noteworthy differences which have raised the question of whether the two sides are entirely on the same page. the key difference is on the question of the pace and timing of the sanctions. iran believes that the sanctions will be lifted immediately. you have said they will be phased out, which one is it? >> first of a yo

the conditions on plutonium do not lie. i think what we have seen from heinemann is that the numbers do not line up to the proliferation process. there are details that need to be resolved, but based on the parameters how they have been laid out, you can tell that the facts are already being discussed. there is a plan for rick i think the u.s. congress is a significant obstacle. less from a sanctions perspective, but i am concerned about defining the role of congress moving forward. such as the corker legislation, which would require a congressional review of an agreement. actions like that see more innocuous on the surface. and you're talking about passing legislation that delays implementation of a deal that requires the president to certify additional conditions beyond what is required in the agreement to grant sanctions relief, that sends the wrong message to congress and the international community about the u.s.'s willingness to implement the agreement. the obama administration needs to focus its energy on congress, e

weapons grade plutonium. the enrichment piece was very hard. how do we design enrichment capacity for iran that gets us what we need -- this one-year timeline if they cheated, it would give us a ramp to make a decision on what action to take. that timeline, if they did throw out the inspectors. what we had to assemble was a set of pieces. how many centrifuges they are permitted to operate. they have come down by two thirds. the types of centrifuges. they would only use their first-generation centrifuges to enrich uranium. importantly, getting rid of their stockpile. putting together that equation so that they could feel that they were going to have a peaceful ability to access nuclear energy, but we would have the ability to ensure that we can verify they did not have an enrichment pathway to a weapon. that took a lot of work. charlie: are they sending enriched fuel to russia, outside the country, or not? ben: there are two ways -- when we talk about the technical details -- what we have agreed to is that the

plutonium. the core of its weapon in iraq will be dismantled and replaced. second, this deal shuts down iran's path to a bomb using enriched uranium. iran has agreed to reduce installed installed centrifuges by at least two-thirds. even if it violated the deal for the next decade at least, iran would be a minimum of a year away from acquiring enough material for a bomb. and the strict limitations on iran's stock pile will last for 15 years. international inspectors will have unprecedented access not only to iranian nuclear facilities but to the entire supply chain that supports iran's nuclear program from uranium mills that provide the raw materials to the centrifuge production and storage facilities that support the program. if iran cheats the world will know it. if we see something suspicious, we will inspect it. iran's past efforts to weaponize its program will be addressed. with this deal iran will face more inspections than any other country in the world. the transparency measures will last

plutonium.he core of its reactor will be dismantled and replaced. the spent fuel from that facility will be shipped out of iran for the life of the reactor . iran will not build a new heavywater reactor and iran will not reprocess fuel from its existing reactors ever. second, this deal shuts down iran's path to a bomb using enriched uranium. iran has agreed that it's installed uranium -- that its installed centrifuges will be reduced by 2/3. iran will not enrich uranium with its advanced centrifuges for at least the next 10 years. the vast majority of iran's enriched stockpile of uranium will be neutralized. today, estimates indicate that iran is only two or three months away from potentially acquiring the raw materials that could be used for a single nuclear bomb. under this deal, iran has agreed that it will not stockpile the materials needed to build a weapon. even if it violated the deal for the next decade at least iran would be a minimum of a year away from acquiring enough material for a

plutonium.ill be no reprocessing and the spent fuel will be exported. a set of measures have been agreed to monitor the provisions of the gpsoa, including 3.1 and provisional application of the additional protocol. the international atomic energy agency will be permitted the use of modern technologies and have announced access through agreed procedures including to clarify past and present issues. iran will take part in international cooperation in the field of civilian nuclear energy which can include supply of power and research reactors. another important area of cooperation will be in the field of nuclear safety and security. european union will terminate the implementation of all nuclear related economic and financial sanctions and the united states will cease the application of all nuclear related economic and financial sanctions, simultaneously with the iae verified implementation by iran of its key nuclear commitments. a new u.n. security council resolution will endorse the jcpo terminat

they say they are going to turn that into a peacetime plutonium nuclear facility? we trust them with that? gary b. is right. they are 40% inflation. double digit employment. they are priming for a revolt. we made them one of the richest countries in the world. the reason they are celebrating is because this government, we just made sure that they are going to stay in power for a very long time. they have money to sponsor terrorism. they will have a lot of money now to sponsor terrorism. >> you can tell how good this deal is by watching what happened in the country this morning. the right wing newspapers in 2 that country the conservatives came out and said this is a horrible deal for iran. it's horrible for us. we don't need all these inspectors in here. when you can see the side that is not our friend over there upset with it, makes me feel like we made progress. we can stick our head in the sand. if you are not going to blow them off the face of the earth, we have to have a conversation how we live on the same earth as them. >> they were partying in the streets.

and limit its ability to produce plutonium. in exchange the u.s.nctions. under the deal the white house says it would take iran at least a year to develop a bomb far longer than the current estimates of two to three months but the limits would only last for ten years after which iran could step up production. after

they say they don't produce fuel rods for the plutonium pathway.that site and the inherent inaccessibility. i worry there will be centrifuges there. i worry they could do r&d there they are otherwise not supposed to be doing. >> the agreement would block that pathway. first of all most of the machines that would be left there would be inactive. they would not be as we say spinning at all. most important, you have already said, no uranium will cross the threshold if you like in to to fordo. no enrichment no enrichment r&d and more importantly, as is the case throughout the agreement, there will be continuous surveillance by the international atomic energy. so if there is any attempt to violate the agreement, they would be in breach and we would start the process of for example, restarting sanctions, or taking other actions. >> in terms of the details of those inspections that continual monitoring of what they are doing -- and there are so many parts of this in which they have agreed to be monitored. were you involved in the detailed suggestion discu

i guess the one exception is the plutonium facility, arak will be dismantled. >> it's basically being redone. >> but it will be a research reactor instead of a plutonium reactor. >> for all the pages of detail they listed in the parameters, the sanctions piece is very unclear. the iranians said their negotiators said we expect the sanctions to be lifted when the final agreement is signed. >> immediately. immediately. >> in june. the obama administration has always insisted that that was not going to happen unless iran was in compliance. but once the sanctions begin to break apart in western commercial interests go in there -- >> yeah, the president said that the sanctions will be phased out. i think he's being slippery there. the toughest sanctions those are the ones -- they'll go as the iranians suggest immediately. >> let's recall, paul, this is still an outline of an agreement details to be worked out presumably by the end of june. with any of these agreements you know, the proper -- the devil is in the details does apply. here the question is what the iranian method of cheating an

but you have to convert it to a different purpose so it can't produce weapons grade plutonium. enrichment facility in fordo that they burieddeep underground. what we said is you have to convert that facility so the sent if i-- centrifuges are not enrichingr so finding ways in which again iran is going to be able to have a program that can access peaceful nuclear energy, but that the facilities are converted and there are limitations that cult off these pathways to a nuclear weapon. >> rose: there are many people who believe that the fordo facility would be impervious to bombing. is that an understanding that the unites states has? >> well the fact of thelp matter is that the fordo facility is buried deep underground. it was a covert facility. there's no reason that iran had to bury that facility deep underground other than to hide it from the international community. it is certainly a more complicated military target. i'm to the going to get into our own military capabilities. they're obviously quite significant. but the fact is now that they e converting this facility they wil

as i said, this agreement cuts off both the uranium and the plutonium paths to a bomb. there's some parts of the restrictions that last 10 years, up to 25 years. you can never stop iran from cheating on a deal if it decides to do so. what you can do is hope to detect such cheating very early. the verification provisions in today's deal give a good chance of enabling the international atomic energy agency to do just that. >> if you want to dig deeper into the fine print of the nuclear agreement, cnn.com has an article breaking it down into seven key points. that's on our website, cnn.com/international. >>> now to china. a former security official there is now formally charged in a corruption probe according to the country's state-run media. he is accused of accepting bribes, abuse of power, and leaking state secrets. cnn's andrew stevens joins us live from hong kong with more on this. good day to you. there's a long list of charges and allegations against him. >> reporter: absolutely. it's important to underline, george, just how big a figure he is in china's political a

grades plutonium. the core of the reactor at iraq will be dismantled and replaced. the spent fuel from the facility will be shipped out of iran for the life of the reactor. iran will not build a new heavy water reactor. and iran will not reprocess fuel from the existing reactors, ever. second, this deal shuts down iran's path to a bomb using enriched uranium. iran has agreed that its installed centrifuges will be reduced by two-thirds. iran will no longer enrich your uranium for at least the next ten years. the vast majority of iran's stockpile of enriched uranium will be neutralized. today estimates indicate iran is two or three months away from acquiring the raw materials that could be used for a singular nuclear bomb. under this deal, iran has agreed it will not stockpile the materials needed to build a weapon. even if it violated the deal for the next decade at least, iran would be a year away from acquireing enough if r a bomb. and the strict limitations will last for 15 years. third, this deal pr

this agreement cuts off both the uranium and plutonium parts to the bomb.parts to the restriction reach ten, some 15, some as far as 25 years. you can never stop iran from cheating on a deal if it decide toss do so. you can hope to detect cheating very early. >> james talking with me earlier. we will of course have much more analysis as the two sides work towards a final agreement in a couple of months. a u.s. citizen allegedly told an under cover agent why followers did this when she could do it at home. she's now in jail along with her former roommate. here is cnn's jason carol in new york. prosecutors say the women researched and acquires material including fertilizer, a pressure cooker device and multiple propane tanks which were kept in her apartment building. >> my client will enter a plea of not guilty even when there is an indictment and she and i will address nefrg the courtroom where it belongs. believing a crowded police funeral would be an easy target. she had repeated contact with al qaeda in the arabian peninsula and that she wrote a poem whic

the promise that iran will not produce weapons-grade plutonium and uranium and along with the promise of inspectors on the ground to verify, is that enough to make the skeptics believers? >> not completely. it's a little better than that old jibe about nixon, would you buy a secondhand car from this man, but on the other hand, a promise is just a promise. and in the nuclear field, there's got to be more seen than that. and i think at the end of your report you got to what could be the nub of the next few months, and that's israel's reaction. the times of israel, the online daily which is fairly moderate in tone, has already been talking today of potential military action by the israelis if there's any suspicion that anything's going on to develop that israeli nuclear component. so is i would say, frankly, if you are looking for a headline, it might not sell many copies of the paper. but this was an agreement not to disagree. how many times have we heard international negotiations end in a great decision to meet again? this time they're not meeting again very quickly. their going to --

plutonium. it would be exported. measures have been agreed to monitor the provisions including implementation of the code and provisional application of the protocol. the energy agency would be permitted the use of technologies and would have non-access to agreed procedures for past and present issues. iran will take part in international polar for a share in the field of energy, which would apply powers -- another area would be in the field of nuclear safety. european union would terminate the implementation of all nuclear related economic and financial sanctions, and the united states would seize the application of all nuclear related economic and financial sanctions. simultaneously with the implementation by iran of its key nuclear commitment. the new un security council resolution will endorse terminate all nuclear related solutions and incorporate certain restrictive measures for an agreed. of time agreed period of time. in the coming weeks and months, at the political and expert level. we

plutonium. the core of its reactor in iraq will be his mental and replaced. the fuel from that facility will be shipped from iran for the life of the reactor. iran will not build a new heavy water reactor. and iran will not reprocess fuel from its existing reactors ever. second, this deal shuts down iran's path to a bomb using enriched uranium. iran has agreed that it's installed centrifuges will be reduced by 2/3. iran will not enrich uranium with it such fuses for at least the next 10 years. the vast majority of iran's stockpile of enriched uranium will be neutralized. today, estimates indicate that iran is only 2-3 months away from essentially acquiring the raw materials that could be used for a single nuclear bomb. under this deal, iran has agreed that it will not stockpiled the materials needed to build a weapon. even if it violated the deal, for the next decade at least iran would be a minimum of a year away from acquiring enough material for a bomb. and the strict limitation on iran's sto

plutonium.he core of it's -- its reactor will be dismantled and replace. fuel will be shipped out of iran. iran will not build a new heavywater reactor and it will not reprocessed fuel from existing reactors, ever. the deal shuts down iran's packed to iran using enriched uranium. it has agreed it will be reduced by two thirds spirit iran will no longer enrich uranium at its facility. it will not enriched uranium with its advanced centrifuges for at least the next 10 years. the vast majority of iran's's stockpile of enriched uranium will be neutralized. today, estimates indicate iran is only two or three months away from potentially acquiring raw materials that could be used for a singular -- single nuclear bomb. iran agrees it will not stockpile materials needed to build a nuclear weapon. even if it violated the deal for the next decade, iran would be a minimum of a year away from acquiring enough material for it -- for a bomb. limitations on iran's stockpile would last 15 years. third, this dea

the mox deals with that unused excess plutonium and others. but this amendment deals with the notion of rebuilding the -- and increasing the capacity of the united states to produce new plutonium pits. we presently have the capacity to produce between five and 10 plutonium pits, again the heart of a nuclear weapon in the existing facilities. we are going to spend a few billion dollars unknown between a billion and $3 billion building the facilities to increase the capacity to manufacture these plutonium pits to 50 to 80 a year. testimony that we have received in the strategic arms committee in the armed services committee indicates that nobody knows what you are going to do with them and whether you need to build or the pits, but they want to build the facility just in case. you have 10,000 out there. why are doing this. never been answered other than we might need it some day. god willing we might not need it some day. five to 10 a year. 50 to 80 the military doesn't know what to do with it. but n.s.a., wants to build it. the amendment says t

plutonium. the core of its reactor in iraq will be disman healthed and -- dismantled and replaced. the dispensed fuel will be shipped out of iran for the life of the reactor. iran will not build a new heavy water reactor and iran will not reprocess fuel from its existing reactors, ever. second, this deal shuts down iran's path to a bomb using enriched-uranium. iran has agreed that its installed centrifuges will be reduced by 2/3. iran will not longer enrich uranium at fordo facility. it will not enrich uranium with advanced centrifuges for at least 10 years. vast majority of iran's stockpile of enriched-uranium will be neutralized. today estimates indicate that iran is only two or three months away from potentially act acquiring raw materials that could be used for a single nuclear bomb. under this deal, iran will not stockpile materials needed to build a weapon. even if it violated the deal for the next decade at least iran would be a minimum of a year away from acquiring enough material for a

plutonium.he core of its reactor will be dismantled and replace. spent fuel will be shipped out of iran for the life of the reactor. iran will not build a new reactor and it will not reprocess fuel from existing reactors, ever. second, the deal shuts down iran's path to a bomb using enriched uranium. iran has agreed that it will be shutdown by two thirds. it will no longer and rich uranium in the advanced centrifuges for at least two years. the stockpile of an rich uranium will be neutralized. estimates indicate it is only two to three months away from potentially acquiring the raw materials for a single nuclear bomb. under this deal, iran has agreed they will not stockpile the materials needed to build a weapon. even if it violated a deal, for the next decade at least it would be a minimum of a year away from acquiring enough material for a bond. the limitations would last for 15 years. third, this deal provides the best possible defense against their ability to pursue a nuclear weapon covertly

this deal denies iran the plutonium necessary to build a bomb. it shuts down iran's path to a bomb using enriched uranium. iran has agreed that it will not stockpile the materials needed to build a weapon. moreover, international inspectors will have unprecedented access to iran's nuclear program because iran will face more inspections than any other country in the world. if iran cheats, the world will know it. if we see something suspicious we will inspect it. so this deal is not based on trust, it's based on unprecedented verification. and this is a long-term deal with strict limits on iran's program for more than a decade and unprecedented transparency measures that will last for 20 years or more. and as a member of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, iran will never be permitted to develop a nuclear weapon. in return for iran's actions, the international community, including the united states, has agreed to provide iran with phased relief from certain sanctions. if iran violates the deal, sanctions can be snapped back into place. meanwhile,

he claims to have -- in the case, he talks about the iran reactor, about having no weapons grade plutonium. on that point, as a guy that represented the south side of chicago where nuclear power was invented i'd say it is all weapons grade. >> does the report that russia is going to -- >> it was a stab in the back. by selling the s300 to iran means that we have a substantial air defense issue against the s300. that israel and the united states will have to really take that into account. >> as it relates to the negotiations? >> i would say the bush administration did manage to halt that transfer of technology quite well. the russians knew just how bad it would be to turn. you see major portions of the negotiation, where they were relying on the russians to take custody of some of the missile material. now, the russians are selling the s300 back. any solution that involves trust with the russians does not appear to be valid at all. >> what was kerry's pitch, as far as congressional restraint? he was not moving ahead, and was it convincing? >> i think in general, he -- his general point, like

including the uranium pathway and the plutonium pathway at iraq, and of course the covert pathway.ost: as we look at is now courtesy of the bbc, these evident your facilities that secretary kerry was referring to inside of iran. how do you verify that how do we ensure that the verification progress -- process is part of this agreement is firm and ironclad? guest: first of all, iran's facilities have been under scrutiny by the international atomic energy agency for years. we have iaea inspectors in there now. secretary kerry is describing part of the framework agreement with iran. our enhanced monitoring with transparency measures that go beyond what iran is currently agreed to. one of the chief challenges is not just verifying that there is no nuclear weapons activity at the sites no noncomplying activity, but we want to make sure that at sites that are not declared by iran officials nuclear sites, that there is no nuclear weapon activity going on. the value of this agreement with respect to monitoring and transparency, is quite important. especially as the secretary of state says,

it also has to redesign a power plant so it cannot produce weapons-grade plutonium and be subject to regular international nuclear inspections. the parties must now reach a final agreement by june 30. president obama said the deal is a good one. >> i've always insisted i will do what is necessary to prevent iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon, and i will. but i also know a diplomatic solution is the best way to get this done. amy: israel has condemned the deal while republican lawmakers are demanding the rights to review it. we'll have more on the deal after headlines. in kenya, officials say 147 people, mainly university students, were killed when al shabab militants stormed a university in garissa, making it the worst attack on kenyan soil since the 1998 bombing of the u.s. embassy. gunmen reportedly went through the university dorms, separating muslims from christians, and killing the christians. the siege lasted about 15 hours before security forces killed four militants. in yemen, houthi rebels have reportedly retreated from the former palace of president abd-rabbu mansour hadi

i guess the one exception is the plutonium offacility. >> it's being redone. >> it will be a research facility? >> the main thing is the lifting of sanctions. for all the pages of detail, the sanctions piece is very unclear. the iranians said in the news conference, their negotiators said we expect these sanctions to be lifted when the final agreement is signed. >> immediately upon that. >> in june. >> the obama administration has always insisted that that was not going to happen unless iran was in compliance, but once those sanctions begin to break apart and western commercial interests go in there, it's katie bar the door. >> i think he's being a little slippery there because the toughest sanctions, which are the fang, the ones at the u.n., those are the ones that will go as the iranians suggest, immediately. >> and let's recall paul, that this is still an outline of an agreement details to be worked out, presumably by the end of june with any of these agreements you know, the proper, the devil's in the details, it really does apply. the iranian method of cheating and negotiation ha

and the plutonium reactor will be redesigned and rebuilt to cut off a plutonium path. nuclear inspectors from the iaea will investigate suspicious sites without the ability to conduct snap inspections. iran will have to address the possible military dimension to its nuclear program. its research on warheads and re-entry vehicles something on which it has long stonewalled the iaea up to the present day. and eu and american sanctions will be suspended in tandem with compliance and supposedly snapped back in the event of noncompliance. president obama acknowledged this is not a done deal in his remarks in the rose garden, but he cast these terms as preferable to war. >> there will be strict limits on iran's program for a decade. additional restrictions on building new facilities or stockpiling materials will last for 15 years. the unprecedented transparency measures will last for 20 years or more indeed some will be permanent. and as a member of the nuclear nonproliferation treaty, iran will never be permitted to develop a nuclear weapon. >> just 15 months ago when these

. >> dismantle a plutonium reactor, which is another path to the bomb. >> and calls for strict u.n. inspections. >> and iran will also downgrade its official statement of belligerence from death to america to hemorrhoids and bunions to america. the final step, opening their, opening their facilities to inspectors, delaying production for a decade. this is a big deal. >> there is no deal. >> >> there is no deal? >> in the this is a detailed framework for future negotiations, not a done deal. >> really? because i believed the 80-point font graphic next to your head would beg to differ. >> generally when one stands next to a historic nuclear deal sign, it is in reference to a historic nuclear deal not some other -- oh you changed it. okay. >> touche. >> okay. wait. wait, if this isn't a done deal what level of deal doneness is it at? >> it is sort of like you signed a contract to purchase a home, but you still have got the appraisal, the inspector, you have got to make sure that there isn't some kind of environmental disaster on the land. >> ugh. we get it. you have to move soon. we kn

we would take the plutonium reactor that is a dangerous facility and we would be destroying the corethat reactor. shipping the parts out of the country and insure when it's restocked, that it's restocked with equipment that would not allow you to process plutonium at weapons grade. bill: just this past week iran said we are not going to do that. how can you trust this government to fulfill what you would consider an honest negotiation? >> we don't trust them. the fact is that's why we'll have international inspectors having regular access to that facility to verify their compliance with the agreement. if we determine they are not living up to the terms of the agreement we can snap the sanctions back at us. the best way for us to resolve our plans with iran's nuclear program. we are not going to trust them. we are going to verify them with the agreement. bill: there are no snap inspections based on what i read. is that a dangerous thing to agree to? >> we are still work out the details. but these are the most intrusive inspections that have ever been put in place. it's not just their