he was born in 1918 to the very poor family in plymouth michig michigan. from plymouth to massachusetts as a typical american story where there've been originally in the theaters and -- puritanism than the intelligent working-class families they embraced a spiritualism. that's the kind of atmosphere he grew up in. so always books, no money, interest and the ideas and very a satiric he ended up getting a full scholarship to michigan state. he went to michigan state, graduated, got a masters degree and was drafted and didn't get out until 1946. then he went on and got his degree from the university of scotland and wrote the conservative mind. and the reputation as i said a few moments ago exploded with the publication which was just his dissertation to think about from that point forward he was regarded as the intellectual touchstone for tha the kind of modern american conservatism best known up to the goldwater movement fizzled with the fiasco. it never fully recovered but it had a good run and was influential during that time. >> host: what are som were som