podesta was millennial. it was making decisions for the campaign?> the first answer to that question is your guess is as good as mine. this was a problem that allowed a the junior level staffers are unable to get decisions and sometimes they were trying to sign off on something because podesta were talking and things like that. in terms of if you want to sort of look at what the basic debate was it really mattered in terms of the strategy of field operations and analytics in how this sort of mechanics of campaigning believe heavily in the use of campaign data, not only heavily, but exclusively. he did look favorably upon those with politics as an art including president clinton who believe hillary clinton should be out there trying to persuade people who didn't agree with her. the data said it was more expensive, less efficient to try to get people who disagreed with her to vote for her than people who agree with her to show up, which is true by the way. anybody will tell you that is true. typically they don't abandon persuasion efforts entirely. th

. >> then john podesta who chaired hillary clinton's campaign echoing the words democrats who called comey's firing nixon on. podesta tweeting didn't you know you're supposed to wait until saturday night to massacre people investigate underground. that's reference to president nixon's firing of special prosecutor archibald cox which led to resignation of the attorney general and deputy attorney general. it wasn't even seven or eight minutes after the news broke that comey was fired you're seeing reference to nixonian and archibald cox and saturday night massacre. >> both sides of the ailes now. republicans very critical of the timing here and that's what is the focus. this morning a range of other former officials with insight pushing back against the comey firing. former u.s. attorney, the federal prosecutor in new york who was fired by the president after being told he was staying on tweeting, everyone who cares about independence and rule of law in america should be troubled by the timing and the reasoning of comey firing. period. >> former obama administration officials also firi

you have podesta, i understand has a company with his brother in russia, hillary's husband makes speeches, hillary clinton did a uranium deal with russia, nobody talks about that i don't know, because the fbi was not allowed by podesta to go in check all records and their servers that you would check. number two, knowing something about hacking, if you don't catch a hacker in the act, it is very hard to say who did the hacking, with that said, i'll go with russia, could have been china, it could have been different groups, why didn't podesta and democrats allow the fbi to inject a server? they hired a company, who somebody said, some pretty bad things about to go and check the server and give the information, they were hacked, why didn't they -- why done the democrats allow the fbi? they told the fbi we're not going to allow you to do it? why did they do that? why? why didn't they let the fbi check? and why didn't the fbi complaint about it? lou: dickerson i believe looked rather relieved, didn't you, that president tutorial on russia and fake news ended. we're coming right back. >> presi

we should also point out that andrew mccabe was a long time friend of john podesta, the chairman of the hillary clinton campaign. our first guest tonight reports before the president fired comey, comby had told congress was not a target of the fbi investigation. joining me now is sarah carter, national security and war correspondent for circa news. sarah, good to have you with us. and this is as new charges spring up saying that it's just improper, that comey would have said such a thing to the president trying to cast doubt that he actually did say that to the president. you have validation for those statements he made. >> yes. and, you know, for months, for months, we have been reporting this. i mean, several months ago, john sullivan and i broke the story that actually restreeled that neither trump nor anyone in his immediate circle was part of an investigation into the collusion with russia. now, there were exattenuating circumstances to this. what we discovered today is that grassley as well as senator feinstein validated this. there are so many myths out there, lou, that are not r

within an hour or two of the hollywood access tape, being russian thefthe of john podesta emails hit wikileaks p or what a coincidence paid you cannot make this stuff up. did we make mistakes? of course. did i make mistakes, oh my gosh, and my confession request for absolution. we lostreason i believe where the intervening events in the last 10 days. host: that is her assessment and we are getting your thoughts. tennessee, independent line. mrs.do you think about clinton passes assessment? clinton's assessment? caller: doing since the very beginning. against all ofg it, he said he would win because all of the uneducated would vote for him. hillary is obviously the smarter one on how to run a country because she does what many other , he's one we have now threatening to close the funds down to run the country. as far as her loss and 2016, was it her fault, wikileaks, james comey, what these think? caller: i automatically -- it automatically gave trump the now heion to around -- is condemning him. a man cannot make up his mind. i am very concerned. i'm a veteran of the vietnam war. i w

russian assistance to john podesta's business. >> and his brother received big fees. >> exactly. >> so i think as well that's an area they may open up. if they start digging around in there, they may find something they don't want to find. but let me get to real quickly, the rogue of the fbi nominees may be that we just showed a few minutes ago. do you have any preference on any of them? >> i think it would do well to perhaps appoint someone who is a professional attorney or professional officer, perhaps member of the fbi, rather thanoe certainly in this current climate, there's going to be a lot of push back from the democratic side on any politically-backed candidate. >> i agree with you. i know law enforcement likes to have someone from their own thing. >> right. exactly. >> but there's also people saying maybe the leaks are coming from the fbi, so maybe you need an outside professor. >> right. exactly. >> listen, scott thank you. i appreciate you coming on today. be sure to vote in tonight's poll because, well, do you believe that the national media will ever stop its campaign o

russian assistance to john podesta's business. >> and his brother received big fees. >> exactly. >> so i think as well that's an area they may open up. if they start digging around in there, they may find something they don't want to find. but let me get to real quickly, the rogue of the fbi nominees may be that we just showed a few minutes ago. do you have any preference on any of them? >> i think it would do well to perhaps appoint someone who is a professional attorney or professional officer, perhaps member of the fbi, rather than a political official because certainly in this current climate, there's going to be a lot of push back from the democratic side on any politically-backed candidate. >> i agree with you. i know law enforcement likes to have someone from their own thing. >> right. exactly. >> but there's also people saying maybe the leaks are coming from the fbi, so maybe you need an outside professor. >> right. exactly. >> listen, scott thank you. i appreciate you coming on today. be sure to vote in tonight's poll because, well, do you believe that the national media wi

, that hack into the dnc and podesta, that they didn't change the outcome but created a lot of discorda. i have yet to see evidence of collusion between the trump campaign and the russians, but we need to keep looking until we can find out one way or the other. anthony, i suppose the next question is, who next to head the fbi? it'll tell us a lot about how independent are. absolutely, that's what eve ryo ne are. absolutely, that's what everyone is looking at now. there is concern certainly among democrats that donald trump might name a partisan, someone closely tied to him. if that happens, the outcry this was an attempt to avoid a russian investigation will reach deafening pitch. some of the indication so far is donald trump is looking for people within the law enforcement community within the fbi. if that is the case, if it's someone fbi. if that is the case, if it's someone both sides trust and both sides know, then i think maybe this will start to die down. there is a big question right now, we haven't heard any names floated. we await that. thanks very much. at this point it's rel

wikileaks-podesta revelations had an impact with some voters. thing she didn't mention was that part of the reason the podesta emails in particular had an impact, certainly, the comey letter, it all traces back to the idea that she had this private server, questions about how she was keeping her emails, whether she was doing government business on a private server. >> bret: the conversation didn't go into deplorable's and how that sentence, about trump supporters being deplorable's, kind of effect of the polls at the time. >> it was a perfectly clinton response. she started by saying that she takes personal responsibility and then proceeded to blame absolutely everybody imaginal, including her gender. even president obama's two terms in office. that is particularly comical. i do think that president obama deserves blame for the loss. the problem was that she was running on his ideas, which after eight years, people got sick and tired of. >> bret: charles. >> the clintons have taken victimhood to a new scientific height, the experts, the entry in

i said john podesta's time in the bureau would come. here's what it means.ess activities with his brother tony and hillary clinton and bill, the gas deal would come under strcrutiny. >> the coincidence that the dnc e-mails came out ever you said that? >> this is conjecture on your part. i have seen opposition research on activities. it is news worthy. it would come out. i had no knowledge wickileaks would hack his e-mails. >> you predicted he would get hit. hillary clinton would get hit. >> i didn't say #wikileaks. >> you said you were talking to assange. >> i said we had an intermediary. i have back channel showeources. do you have them? >> i do. if somebody came to me and said assange, they believe he is a delivery device. >> where is the proof of that? that is not true. here is the point. >> you don't think russia was behind? >> no. julian assange does not work for the russians. >> a 17 agencies? >> all headed by political appointees which are holdovers from bahamobama. these with people who said we were trafficking p.o.w.s. th these are the people who sa

how did podesta get hacked? he handed over his password to a hacker. >> bob: you guys are jumping way ahead of the game here. it was whether or not there was collusion. you said it wasn't. i didn't say there was. but let the investigation go forward. >> dana: there was one other thing that happened in the lester holt interview. president trump was asked about the firing of michael flynn back in february. here is what he said. >> we fired him because he said something to the vice president that was not so. >> did you know that he had received payments from the russian government?? >> no, but obama perhaps knew that. he had clearance from the obama administration. this is something they never want to report. he had clearance from the obama administration. the highest clearance you can have. and i think it's very unfair thing that the media doesn't cover that. >> dana: this is also something, greg, the president is very frustrated with. the fbi has moved quick enough on the leak investigation. as a part of the russ

the first day of the dnc, another batch of podesta e-mails.ction, podesta e-mails, 2000 of them, came out every single maria sharapo morning. >> do you maybe go back and campaign differently? none of it mattered, that they wouldn't go to michigan more, they wouldn't go to wisconsin? >> i'm not saying that. i'm saying there were certain calculations made based on internal polling which turned out to be incorrect. if youee intnal polling that says you're up in michigan and you're making that call where to allocate resources you'll go to a state where it's closer, like north carolina, pennsylvania. i think people want do overs, but i don't think we can say it's all on her personal failings or it's all this one reason. we have to remember she won 3 million more votes. a lot of the analysis is going to be a little bit off. >> i want to get to ozzie. i think i want to do it with the ladies. >> please. >> do you think misogyny played a role in hillary clinton's loss? >> absolutely. i went to battle ground states prior to the election and it really wa

john podesta stupidly gave his password t to a hearing, and his password was "password." the campaign worried about more bill bow eruptions from bill. but what does that have to do with donald trump? i have no idea. therthere is more evidence the democrats excluded with the media during the election than there is evidence trump collude with russia. remember donna brazil passing debate questions to hillary. or politico allowing them to edit their stories before publication. don't you think if they had anything solid it would have leaked already? everything else always leaks. president trump decided to fire f.b.i. director james comey for the following reasons. he lost the trust of democrats and republicans. he lost the trust of his superiors at the department of justice and continued to seek attention in the public arena. personally i think there were more reasons for comey to get canned. he embarrassed himself begging apple to crack into the san bernardino shooter's iphone and refused to cooperate with investigation into criminal leaks and unmasking of trump officials. ac

podesta writes last week the administration made good on one of trump's first acts in office to widelyxpand what is known as the global gag rule placing draconian restrictions not only on the operations of family planning organizations but health workers dealing with issues unrelated to abortion and reproductive rights such as malaria and hiv/aids. the end result is tens of thousands of easily preventable deaths and ironically hundreds of thousands of more boreaborti around the globe as poor women in the developing world are denied access to contraception and other esent initiether seeh. big name, haven't heard from him in a while. it doesn't get to the sharp spending cuts in the budget which will likely dominate the conversation. >> my must read comes from another big name who we hear from more often, and it's how the great market bull run can have a constructive end. we should expect an intensification in the next few weeks of the tug of war between two liquidity induced phenomena, crowded trades that result in more trade in a constructive world for financial markets, the liquidity p

. >> right, he's basically telegraphing this to mook and to podesta and other people. and i think you know, there were other problems on the ground when you talk to state directors. they were saying they are sending us into battle without armour. we're not prepared. there's a lack of even lawn signs there on the ground. people, you know, there was something missing. >> rose: so bill, she had to choose between her husband, one of the most successful politicians of his time, of his generation, you know, and a campaign that was run by people she hardly knew before. and she chose them rather than her husband. >> she did. we think that this is a lot. we think this because we talked to people who said it. this largely results from her experience in 2008 when she ran against barack obama. and he ran circles around her on some things, on technology, on sort of the modern campaigning am people told her she was running an old-style political machine. and you know, bill clinton had gone out there and said some things that he had gotten in trouble for. he took a lot of blame for t

bill clinton was pissed off, he hollered at john podesta loud enough to be heard through the walls of the little room. in downtown des moines iowa. it was the pundits he was watching on tv. they were getting it all wrong again. as a result of the iowa caucus trickled in. hillary was leading but it was going to be tight. omg he said it doesn't get a whole lot closer than that. that assessment invited parallels to the 2008 loss to barack obama. it was in those views and absurd comparison after all that have been a three way race and she was still likely to come out the winner on this night. the snake. not the third-place finisher. but they were competing with her in iowa and dÉjÀ vu was a hard straight line to resist. the outcome tonight ensures that this race is going to go on for months and months on the democratic side the perception all night had been that hillary was a such a prohibited front runner heading into the democratic nomination that they should have cleaned up easily. bill had a much different perspective. iowa had never been clinton country. and hillary had increased the

what podesta said about her being scripted, what president doesn't have scripts on foreign trips?yes it scripted. all of them are. >> meghan: the ceremony when he got to saudi arabia with everyone dancing, that seem pretty casual. >> herman: that comment, that's why we started laughing. that's why i was laughing. he is out of his mind. the fact he hasn't done as much tweeting is a good thing, but he should not give up tweeting, he just need to be more controlled. >> meghan: do you think he is successfully changing his narrative? >> herman: yes. i have described president trump domestically as a setting a new positive tone from the top. this trip said to me he is also setting a positive tone for the world and i think what you said in your introduction of this proves that and that's what's driving liberals crazy. that's why their heads are exploding. they wanted him to fall on his face. >> sandra: to have faith he can keep that momentum when he comes back to washington? >> herman: nichols echoes righk to what he's been doing. they're going to forget all about the positives when he t

john podesta's brother, all of that?>> they should definitely look into that because it has been debunked about a thousand times. >> martha: donald trump was a the same thing. >> he would be wrong. >> martha: and you would be right, of course. >> zac's answer, which was very good, is exactly the reason why rosenstein's move is so good for donald trump. basically, the democrats have nothing left to say. he basically -- >> martha: he wants an independent, outside person. [laughter] >> the reality is, the trumpon r fire. the fact is, bob mueller is a completely professional guy, character and integrity, no one will question how he is doing the job. he will go about it quietly and professionally, he won't have press conferences, which means there is no room in the news environment for questioning it or raising issues. he will just do his job. if trump is right, he has nothing to worry about. he can go back to his day job, which is being the president. he can do that job instead of spending every day talking about mueller and

another key advisor to hillary clinton of course was john podesta, the campaign chairman. public is getting mildly nauseous listening to jim comey. after the firing podesta tweets to the president, didn't you know you're supposed to wait till saturday night to massacre people investigating you? former trump advisor pete hoekstra says there is no there there with this russian investigation. >> there has been no evidence over the last nine months that there is any hint of collusion between the trump campaign and the russians. there has been no discussion about what laws may have been broken. that continues to be a discussion and a challenge or an allegation that has no merit to it. reporter: the president may have some explaining to do as well. remember in the final days of the campaign, he praised james comey, said he was a man of integrity, now saying much different as he fires comey. brian, you said why didn't they put the attorney general out there? i spoke to someone in the administration, the look the attorney general recused himself from the russian investigation, dep

podesta: building that broad coalition in california. how do you assess, now, the relationship between what you're trying to do in terms of building up clean energy infrastructure with where the building trade unions are? tom: let me start with the coalition in california and then i'll address the trades. the coalition we have which we started ten years ago is, different from the ones that people think about. first of all, i think it's incumbent on me to say that people who are commonly thought to be environmentally focused are not necessarily the people you think they are. the number one ethnicity who clean care about clean air is latinos and built around the idea it goes to every part of society. secondly we have had always organized labor as a strong partner. part of what we're talking about is inseparable from everything that we do is that we'll create good-paying jobs and distribute them through the communities and the third thing is, we believe we can get the chamber of commerce. in california, we have always had more than half of

e-mails were release that had john podesta was about to spend his time in the barrel. that's information we now know he received while he was communicating with guccifer2.0 that received the hacked democratic party e-mails. there's consciousness of guilt and individuals who denied having meetings with the russians and then when confronted finally had to fess up or step aside like general michael flynn who had talked to the russian ambassador and lied to the vice president about it and then, of course, our attorney general twice asked by the senate if the he had ever met the russian ambassador or anyone with the russian government and he said no and when it was later learned that he had he said he had just been forgetful. these do not appear to be coincidences. they appear to be a convergence. >> i want to ask you about fbi director jim comey because he testified during a closed hearing this weak, and i wonder how you're feeling about the progress that the fbi is making after you heard his testimony. >> i'm comfortable that they are making progress and our committee is

the podesta emails were dropped one hour after the wikileaks. but we will find somebody close to trump said, go, now. you've got them, go with it. which is why they couldn't help but brag about the fact that there was going to be podesta's time in the stock. he couldn't help himself. so somebody in the trump orbit said -- let me ask you. >> tucker: i thought democrats are going to think, how did we lose the middle class, how did we loose the upper midwest. we should think about the program we are offering. you run into carter page and roger stone -- >> well, perhaps... but when it's all crazy red >> bye-bye, talker. thanks. >> tucker: -- democrats need to stop being elitist snobs and care more about helping the middle class. next, we will talk to former presidential candidate jim webb who is a senator from virginia and a democrat. has his party gone astray? plus retired harvard law -- the appointment of robert mueller, special counsel. how is that going to work? we will tell you straight ahead. researchers of technologies that one day you will.

find me one. >> john podesta, senator schumer, harry reid. let's keep going. >> there is a reason crossfire is off the air. thank you, panel. >>> president trump calls the russian investigation a witch hunt. remember, this comes from the guy who supported the birtherrism. remember he sent people to hawaii to try to figure out where obama came from? you're watching "hardball." >>> the entire thing has been a witch hunt, and there is no collusion between certainly myself and my campaign, but i can always speak for myself and the russians, zero. >> look at the way i've been treated lately. especially by the media. no politician in history, and i say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly. you can't let them get you down. you can't let the critics and the naysayers get in the way of your dreams. >> see the halo on his head? welcome back to "hardball." it's friday in the nation's capitol, and as i mentioned for a while now, there are three bombshell stories out just this afternoon. the "washington post" reported the probe

>> john podesta earlier in the day tweeted out about how he felt comey hillary clinton lose the election and now he's their best friend. come on. that's how stupid this is. and i think we have to look at some of the other unforced rors by james comey over the past few days. liz: here's the thing. comey was fired after reports indicating he wanted more resources. that's being denied. there are ten investigations out of there, three now being run by the fbi. also reports that president trump is angry over what comey said last week in the russia probe. what do you think? >> i think i'm -- you know, katherine reported yesterday that one of the -- the straws that broke the camel's back was a meeting where president trump asked directly for information relating to who exactly was engaged in the unmasking. and on top of that, a very overlooked segment of the hearings last week with james comey was asked i believe by tray gowdy, are you going to investigate who leaked? and he said "no." not interested. so i think those two things, the fact that the senior law enforcement officer in a country was

within an hour or two of the hollywood access tape being made public, the russian theft of john podesta's-mails hit wikileaks. what a coincidence. so you just can't make this stuff up. nobody does underwater stunts, sylvia. except me, of course. this is my stop. adios! ♪ if you're a stuntman, you cheat death. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. número uno! >>> the latest effort by house republicans to repeal and replace obamacare increasingly appears to be going the way of previous efforts which ended in very embarrassing failures. republican leaders are scrambling right now for support but tonight they are still falling short. our congressional correspondent at capitol hill with the latest. sunlen, paul ryan and his team, apparently have very little wiggle room right now. >> that's right, wolf. if one more house republican comes out against the bill, that kills the chances of moving forward in its current form. you have house leaders ratcheting up intensity and importance of this moment in making the argum

with the podesta hacking was the podesta hacking happened and was leaked out sporadically over a longereriod of time. would you expect for it to be done, you say, stupidly here right at the end of the campaign when the french media outlets can't report it? is this indicative, or is it the fingerprint of the russians that it would be done so sloppily? >> well, without getting too much into detail, but i understand that the fsb is not quite as capable as the kgb. so, you know, i have some connections in intelligence circles, so this is quite possibly sloppy. and let's not forget -- this is what i was talking about before -- the russian hacking, whatever it is, is based on a multi-layered type of organization. and part of that organization, these are independent operators. these are hackers. these are anarchists. they're very hard to control. so this is -- you know, if i'm in the fsb right now, i'm scratching my head and saying, what are we doing here because ultimately i think this is going to backfire. i don't think it's going to influence the election, and it will probably make the inco

the podesta hacking and the e-mails released sporadically over a longer period of time.his comes just at the very end of the campaign. is there enough time here potentially to sway what happened, and is this the same m.o. of whomever hacked in the u.s.? >> well, it definitely seems like it's the same m.o. the key word here, i think, is confusion. there's not necessarily -- remember, the podesta e-mails, there wasn't really a whole lot of damning evidence toward hillary clinton and her campaign, but it was the appearance of, you know, being not transparent and having something to hide that was the issue. and i think that's going to be the same thing here. you know, if there's confirmation of a hack and a leak, but there's not a lot of information that's going to be put out there thanks to this media blackout. so i think there's going to be an issue in the minds of french voters of what does emmanuel macron have to hide given that all those e-mails had to be leaked in order to be released. as for, you know, whether the timing matters, i think it does given the fact that it

as far back -- this is before podesta even -- before his e-mails were leaked by wikileaks. this is back i august. is there any information as to why we didn't take bigger steps then? >> that's a question that really hasn't gotten enough attention. this is why the obama administration waited as long as they did to act. it's only after the election that the president orders this intelligence report that really fleshes it out tloult t. comey wanted to write an op-ed, the white house pushed back on that. we still don't understand why. we think that they were afraid that if they used this, they said, look, there's a real issue here, a national security issue that trump would accuse them of putting their finger on the scale for hillary and using national security as a way of doing that. >> devin, tonight the senate intelligence committee says everything is on the table that they may subpoena more from general flynn, maybe seek contempt. they are keeping the door wide open. they obviously know if they do any form of immunity, they could step on the fbi's investigation. where do yo

within an hour or two of the hollywood access tape being made public, the russian theft of john podesta's e-mails hit wikileaks. what a coincidence. so you just can't make this stuff up. so did we make mistakes? of course we did. did i make mistakes? oh, my gosh, yes. you know, you'll read my confession and my request for absolution. but the reason why i believe we lost were the intervening events in the last ten days. >> clinton gave no explanation of her failure to campaign in wisconsin or how she failed to win over college educated white women. president trump fired back on twitter last night writing fbi director comey was the best thing that ever happened to hillary clinton in that he gave her a free pass for many bad deeds. the phony trump russia story was an excuse used by democrats as justification for losing the election. perhaps trump just ran a great campaign. meanwhile during a news conference alongside angela merkel, vladimir putin claimed once again that are russia did not meddle in the u.s. election. >> translator: we never interfere into political lives and political proces

now, if you've ever read the jon podesta e-mails, they are boredom. >> we had him here once. [ laughterorgive him for what he said about you. but they were run-of-the-mill e-mails. especially run-of-the-mill campaigns. what did she today? the stuff that's so common, basic. within one hour they dumped them and then they began to weaponize them. and they began to have some of their allies within the internet world, like info wars, take out pieces and begin to say the most outrageous, outlandish, absurd lies you can imagine. so they had to be ready for that and they had to have a plan for that and they had to be given the go-ahead. okay, this could be the end of the trump campaign. dump it now. and then let's do everything we can to weaponize it. and we know it hurt us. as i explain in my book, you know, the comey letter which was, now we know, partly based on a false memo from the russians, it was a classic piece of russian disinformation, compromat, they call it. for whatever reason but i speculate, i can't look inside the guy's mind. he dumps that on me on october 28. and i immediately

within an hour or two of the hollywood access tape being made public, the russian theft of john podesta's e-mails hit wikileaks. what a coincidence. >> reporter: what about her responsibility for failing to have a better mess snaage? >> did i make mistakes, oh, my gosh, yes. >> reporter: even some of her former aides say she's not really confronting her own political failings for what they acknowledge was a devastating loss from which she has not fully recovered. >> andrea mitchell, thank you. >>> now to fears of a flood emergency in missouri. residents being evacuated in a race to keep the water from rushing into towns with more rough weather and rain on the way. blake mccoy takes us inside the flood zone tonight. >> reporter: with swelling rivers outside st. louis tonight, nearing record flood levels, hundreds of volunteers are filling sandbags. a fran tech effort to protect homes and businesses, like jim umbarker's bakery. >> it's a little overwhelming. i'm actually speechless. >> reporter: high schoolers in eureka, missouri, joined the effort. classes canceled. the campus only accessi

post, and now he had his own site. >> what's in your closet, john podesta?rew was an iconoclastic guy. he was a controversial guy, but mostly because he took no prisoners. >> ...because we're playing to win. >> meaning he would kind of say whatever came to mind. he thought of himself, and i think he was, in many ways, a real truthteller. >> we've been drinking. we've had, like, a couple beers. sex and gambling. >> narrator: somehow, bombastic breitbart and bookish bannon were drawn to each other. >> new orleans pd. >> there certainly was a chemistry and an energy between the two of them, where you could see that they were both thinking, "this is a person who could get me to the next level." >> breitbart immediately recognized bannon as a fellow traveler, as someone he could conscript into this war against islam, but also against secular culture in the united states. >> narrator: breitbart needed bannon's business savvy and he needed an infusion of money. bannon knew where to get it: conservative mega-donors the mercers. >> bob mercer is a computer scientist

what vote changed because of john podesta? but she said it scared people. scared. i thought it was an interesting idea. it scared people away from voting for her. >> i think what the hacking did was brought up the question of e-mails every day. so there was a clinton e-mail story every day, and if you're the average person and you saw that, you associated the questions about her own server. and it was every day that there was something embarrassing coming out, and there were headlines about it. i think they would arguthat that distracted from the message they were trying to get out. to your point about comey, i mean comey's got more time here. you know, hillary doesn't. but comey has this trump investigation. and, you know, if comey could come back in the democrats' eyes and deliver them something on trump, then that would change the arc of the james comey story. >> what do you make of the giuliani piece of this thing? >> i think that's going to be an interesting thing to watch because giuliani -- >> he said a couple of days before it was coming that something was

two months later, in august, on twitter, roger stone declared, trust me, it will soon be podesta's time in the barrel, end quote. he then bragged that he was in communication with wikileaks, and this was during a campaign -- the campaign in florida. he told a group of florida republicans that founder julian assange said -- that founder julian assange and that there would be no telling what the october surprise might be, end quote. clearly he knew what he was talking about. two months later, on october 7, thousands of e-mails from john podesta's account were published on wikileaks. we now know that through the fall election the fbi was actively investigating russia's efforts to interfere with the presidential campaign and possible involvement of trump campaign officials in those efforts. yet, the fbi remained silent. in fact, the fbi summarily refused to acknowledge the investigation. it's still very unclear, and i hope director that you will clear this up, why the fbi's treatment of these two investigations was so dramatically different. with the clinton e-mail investigation it has been