scientists are such a humanist type, they are very upset that pogrebinsky was able to leave budapest, 70 years old, they want him to be humiliated like women sometimes. uh, in general, hmm, they are amazed at their level. yes, but this i now will not be enough was in the last program. what i wanted to say about is that propaganda is involved in this, including representatives of various western organizations, or perhaps participates. for example, the donetsk republic, they constantly asked questions about activities. uh, they have the osce organization for security and cooperation in europe. do you remember there was until recently, the monitoring mission, which was supposed to be like, how to support there, to monitor the implementation of the copper agreements, the truce there, and so on and so forth. here they are in an amazing way. somehow they didn’t see anything, not ukrainian heavy weapons, and so on, again , but now, uh, they were offered to leave, uh, the territory. as you understand, and the donetsk republics. let us now listen to how it argues, the donetsk republic. mission

you know, firstly, for your viewers, i want to say there is good news regarding mikhail pogrebinsky,se i don’t know how you have a lot of very many security issues, thank you . god yes, and let 's hope that everything will be fine with him, but with regard to the negotiation process, you know what lavrov was talking about, today another information appeared from the hungarian prime minister urbana about that there is allegedly an agreement to hold a meeting in budapest in the format of germany france russia and ukraine. i don't know how true this is. this is such a uh normandy format. no, i'm just talking about something so that i don't again plunge into this game of the illusion of the world or the possibility of the world, because i read every point that, uh, is being discussed today in the negotiation process. all this, uh, i calculate in time and how it can be practically implemented and whether it can, in principle, be implemented inside ukraine itself because, well, uh, there are a lot of questions, let's say in relation. uh, the same nato it would seem already, like, like an u