committee and he was basically reading him a transcript and poindexter was taken aback and he said i have no idehad noidea that i was beid and of course this sends off a tempest that the hearing and in the media at the time because it was thought that he had a reputation of being devious and somehow maybe had a tape system that no one knew about. so it was huge. >> host: and you were being asked to told a staffer if it was okay that they could continue asking questions and this is what you write because i think this kind of boy goes down a lot of things you were asked to do at the time. you said holding the phone i would hold my breath, close my eyes and take a judgment call and agree to the disclosure of the secret details and i risk having the agency accused of obstructing the investigation into the public right to know. in the first time in my career i was alone on a high wire without a net. there seems to be a pattern. >> guest: to me that isn't what i was attempting to say. long story short, the committee and it was declassified so they could publicly explained that no this is w

committee and was basically reading him the transcript and poindexter was taken aback. he said i had no idea where that came from and i had no idea was being recorded and of course this set off a tempest at the hearing and in the media at the time because it was thought that william casey had a reputation of being widely and devious and maybe he constructed this nixonian tape system that no one knew about. i mean it was huge. >> host: you are being asked to tell the staff or if it was okay that the member could continue. asking questions and this is what you write because i think this kind of oils down sort of a lot of things you are asked to do at the time. you said holding the phone, i would take a breath close my eyes and make a judgment call. heads i would agree to the disclosure of some sensitive secret and tales i risk have an agency obstructing congressional investigation in the public's right to know. for the first time in my career i was alone on a high-wire without a net. this seems to be a pattern. >> guest: yeah. the prc 250 as i mentioned the book to me tha

casey was in the overseas station and poindexter was at the white house. so during his testimony he was confronted by the chief senate investigator. and poindexter says i have no idea where that came from my did not know what was recorded than that set off in the media because it was thought william casey who had a reputation to be devious may be constructed a tape system that no one knew about. it was huge. >> host: and you were asked to tell the staff that the member could continue in this is what you write. it boils down to things that you were asked to do at the time. you said holding the phone i would just take a breath and close my eyes and make a judgment call head severed agree to do disclosure or tails to risk having the agency accused? for the first of my career i was alone on the high wire without and that. >> host: it seems to be a pattern. >> guest: to me when i was tempting fate on story short the committee staff implored me to declassify so they could publicly explain this is what the system was for. the committee was fine with it. >> host:

it was basically reading had the transcript and poindexter was taken aback. they set off tempt us at the hearing at a reputation of being widely devious. they have the smithsonian keep system that no one knew about. the member could continue at the questions. this is what you write because i think this kind of boils down sort of a lot of things you are asked to do at the time. he said holding the phone i would just take a breath, close my eyes and make a judgment call. i would agree to the disclosure of some sensitive secret tales, having the agency accused of obstruct been the investigation and the public right to know. for the first time in my career i was alone on a high wire without a net. that seems to be a pattern. >> guest: yeah, and i mentioned in the vote to me that was when i was really tempting fate. long story short, the committee, the committee staff implored me to declassify so they could publicly explain that no, this is what the system was for. the committee was fine with it. >> host: the public did not fall apart? disc out it did not. i sc ou

casey's was at an overseas station and calling poindexter at the white house. the testimony pointed to -- confronted either arthur weinman the chief investigator before the committee. weinman was basically reading the transcript and poindexter was taken aback trade he said i have no idea where that comes from and i had no idea i was being recorded and of course this set off a tempest at the hearing and in the media at the time because it was thought that william casey who had a reputation of being widely and devious somehow may be constructed the smithsonian tape system that no one knew about. so i mean it was huge. >> host: you are being asked to tell the staffer who was okay that the member could continue asking questions and this is what you write because i think this kind of oils down sort of a lot of things you are asked to do at the time. you said holding the phone, i would just take a breath close my eyes and make a judgment call. heads i would agree to the disclosure of some sensitive secret, tails and i risk having the agency accused of obstructing a c

did oliver north talk to john poindexter when they were in a military function in 1986 about iran contrae a photo of them. >> you have photos with obama. >> i'm not defending chris christie here. >> i'm just saying -- you're saying what is wildstein providing here? for all we know that is what he is claiming when he was with christie then. >> all i am asking is a simple question. >> look. ask it to kate, it's not my report. >> i'm asking of it kate. >> it's hard enough to defend our own reporting, joe! i am just like, whoa! >> hold on. all of the people say, amen. any way. it's a southern thing. >> like uncle sugar. >> chuck, let me ask you. i greatly appreciate kate being here and answering these questions. somebody who has followed the story every day, chuck, what has your impression been that chris christie was unaware that the lanes were actually closed while they were closed? >> well, from everything i've read, and what christie has said, it seems as if he is trying to say he was aware that there were people that were wondering why the lanes were closed at the time but that he didn'