poindexter did go that route. poindexter got found guilty on all of his charge. north didn't. both had charges vacated because of the immunized testimony problem, but poindexter was in a position to do just what northgate and save his own skin. he took all the heat for that. so that gives them some credibility i don't say i know for sure, but it's a fascinating question. >> we have unfortunately reached at the witching hour. you have a second question if you want to make comment about hostage lessons learned. >> maybe i can deflect it a little bit and talk about u.s.-iran relations a bit and just it, and there are people who know a lot more about this that i do, but my sense over the years is that the u.s. has slowly, slowly, slowly been learning lessons. the reagan period offered several lesson. first of all there are people there you can talk to. it's not 100% clear what they want from us, but there's enough evidence for people like george k., the retiree from cia who was part of this mission, and others who firmly believe that some iranians wanted more than just weapons. th

and four other men, including jim webb, john poindexter, and ollie north. you have written this book now called "blue eyed boy: a memoir." our guest has been robert timberg. thank you very much. >> thank you. it is always my pleasure. >> for free transcripts or to give us your comments, visit us at q-and-a.org. "q&a" programs are also available as c-span podcasts. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] and comments calls on "washington journal." then the officials from the control holdisease a briefing on the ebola response. and then, the debate on the arkansas senate race at three clock p.m.. >> tonight on "the communicators," three members of congress talk about their technology legislation. >> back in 2012 we passed a law that makes it possible for the major broadcasters to give back some of their spectrum that they the had against the fcc, authority to repackage spectrum and reallocate it. under curre

martha scott poindexter with the senate select committee on intelligence and tim butler with mike kelly. welcome. [ applause ] i'd like to call your attention to a number of events that we have coming up. next wednesday we will be hosting a breakfast with ed goes who is a great pollster who will be discussing the november elections and the landscape that we'll be seeing very, very soon. then on september 23rd we have senator rob portman. we will not be here. we'll be over at the monocle. so don't forget that. a number of you, i'm here, where is the party? september 23rd at the monocle. then on september 25th back here at the capitol hill club. we're proud to host the senior leadership staff from team leader -- or majority leader kevin mccarthy. so we'll have all of his senior staff here. this will be a lunch event. so don't miss that. as for this morning, we're so honored to be blessed with these two guys. i'm already sad and already miss them and they haven't even left yet but they continue to fight to keep america securie and the greatest thing about both of them, i have traveled with