union angry or mad. that's absolutely incredible. that's in the reporting here, which i guess proves your point. but that's just total bias. >> obviously, if you're so concerned that you don't even want the union leadershipgry" at you, that shows you're trying to play favorites for the union. remember, this was a suit that as soon as the union settled a new contract with boeing, they made this go away when, in fact, if it was wrong conduct -- misconduct on behalf of boeing, it should have continued. but in fact, this was used as a technique to get the machinist union a new contract that they liked. again, clearly something that was not the intention of this supposed independent agency that is supposed to arbitrate the difference between, if you will, union and non-union. >> and just being a recess appointment -- i want to ask you about this. a recess appointment for a board member, i think -- >> for three of them. >> the union of operating engineers, this was the general consul for the union of operating engineers. according to reports, this union was mobbed up, full of criminal convictions. what's a guy like that doing on the national labor relations board? it was mobbed up. >> well, larry, that's the e