gary k, i think that's the point. businesses aren't making money in america, and sometimes, sometimes the public gets a little bewildered because the market's high beau that's not in direct correlation to our economy. >> i use the word potential. i've been saying this for-- it's a few years now, the potential forhis economy keeps getting headwinds, what's the headwinds? the uncertainty out of washington and the potential for higher taxes. we don't have a tax problem, we don't have a revenue problem forashington d.c. this year, we'll ha-- they'll be close to the highest revenues ever back from 2007. spending is up over 800 billion dollars this year, than it was in 2007. that's where the deficits are coming from. that's what should be talked about more than taxing people o are working their rear ends off to do better for themselves. >> i've got to tell you i don't like when warren buffett is brought into a discussion about people making $250,000. >> two different worlds. >> he's a very good business man. >> an amazing b

obviously they have to clear the railway at some point but investigators point out they are in the infancyf the investigation. there were two floats totaled. one has successfully made it across the intersection and cleared it. as the second was going through that is when the accident happened. this was part of the 9th annual parade, "show of support" parade, loaded with veterans and their spouses en route to a banquet in their honor and that is when an eyewitness says as the second float made it across the train tracks, bells starting ringing and the gates came down. >> it was halfway across and it started as it came down it started hitting people and knocking people off and people started screaming and started jumping and it was the worst thing i have seen. >>casey: there is no determination if the signals were properly working at the intersection. >>trace: they were concerned talking about the crossing gates this clearly raised a series of safety concerns. >>casey: if context, according to the federal rail association, there have been 266 fatal train versus vehicle accidents across the w

me with the c.p.a., neil, can you point a number in front of the decimal point? that was then. we've got henry kissinger and his read on this and tonight, he has a fascinating take on where the middle east is. >> . >> this is a fox news alert. hours ago in closed hearings, general david petraeus made some startling statements while testifying to both house and senate intelligence committee. for the breaking news we turn to catherine herridge live on capitol hill. >> well, eric, thank you, general petraeus is someone who is known for his move the media, but today, shunned reporters, apparently taking a loading dock entrance to get in in the capitol center where he briefed two committees, house and senate intelligence committees and done in a closed or classified session behind closed doors and one of the major flash points were the cia talking points a congressional source tells fox news the cia talking points had the language changed and drafts including al-qaeda in a later draft extremists, republicans say it was an effort to downplay or minimize the role of al-qaeda in the be

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where are the good points? >> i cannot point out the good points immediately.hat dean said, listen, the index has been set obama in. we saw the momentum short covering and what we're seeing right now is the hangover of lake okay, spent $2 billion on an inevitable outcome in the economy is no better and we have seen no improvement. people talk about an agenda. every business is to see his economic agenda, but we have not even seen a budget. the wide sweeping changes from the current administration, i think that is a mistake. nicole: we better lower our expectations, is what you are saying. not too much good news on wall street. tracy: keep them low enough, eventually somebody will jump on them. we will see you in 15 minutes. lori: we just can't get a break. a little over a week after super storm sandy, the northeast racing for a nor'easter. it is here. rain, snow, wind 60 miles per hour and a storm surge two to 3 feet of water could hit already battered coastal areas. mayor bloomberg has ordered all parks and beaches shut down for at least 24 hours. airlines are

richard mour dock lost by six points overall and lost 12 points women. and in virginia, george allen, by six points overall and twice that margin among women by 12 points. in wisconsin, republican tommie thompson lost to tammy baldwin the democrat by five points and his margin by women, admirably enormous by triple that, lost women by 15 points. massachusetts, scott brown republican incumbent lost by eight points overall and 18 points among women. the great state of huo republican josh mandel lost to sherrod brown by five points overall, his margin of defeat among women, 14 points, in montana, denny reberg lost by four points and by women, lost pie nine 9. the republican won by one point and did it no thanks to women, lost wom been in six points so women did not support the guy who won, they supported the democrat shelley berkley and arizona senate ref flake won by five points. arizona women picked the democrat picked richard carmona. governor's race in indiana, republican mike pence was elected won by four points. if you asked women, they did not pick h

four points in iowa, three points here in wisconsin, two points in new hampshire.ime, soledad, those are not comfortable leads even though they tend to be consistent ones that we see. so you see both the obama campaign and romney campaign blanketing wisconsin, for instance, with surrogates. we saw vice president biden here last week as well as senator rubio, a key surrogate for mitt romney. last night, bill clinton was here. he is here this morning. yesterday vice presidential candidate paul ryan was here. we'll also be seeing, of course, president obama here today. you know, it's really interesting. something i want to point out, charles woodson of the green bay packers will be here to rally this crowd here at the airport ahead of president obama. he is the safety for the green bay packers. if you know about football, what does the safety do? they protect against long passes against, that's right, the hail mary, something the obama campaign is trying to do here in wisconsin. >> i like that football metaphor. i don't usually follow them all that closely. but thank

to something when you point to go to hell. fair enough there you go ok jamie see you in hell they've got a special room. one of those chronic flatulence. that's nothing new there he's already got chronic lateral and everyone who works at j.p. morgan those that do it i mean go five yards of the. you know that's one of the social faux paus unfortunately they like to hire that so far smelling devil worshipping jamie diamond lloyd blankfein to run these banks so they get this like a you know a priest up to pal and then they go to hell then it's a more twenty four seven flatulent in their face it's all twenty four seven. down there for jamie oh it's nice you know we're going so much on the cards the report. you. don't go away much more coming your way so. what will change when america picks its president amid muslim rage working the. pushing china and russia as occupiers spreads to two parties still dictate their challenge this election up close guy every day to the fifth on our team. good luck for a tour. to build a most sophistic

we had a lot of 120 points at the low 69 session. now it's about half that amount, down 60 points on the dow at 12,949. the nasdaq is positive right now, thanks mainly to apple which is up 3-plus percent today. citi just initi initiated cover apple. >> just now? >> they didn't have coverage before? >> maybe the previous analyst -- >> they had a new analyst. yes, he likes it. anyway, s&p is down almost five points, off its lows at 1404. fears of the fiscal cliff taking center stage once again, driving stocks lower after last week's 3% surge. that big gain friday, 172 points. we lost a third of that right now. how can you protect your for portfolio? we have chief washington correspondent john harwood, bill from coors state capital advisers who has a review of the new "lincoln" movie, lee munson and senior economics reporter steve liesman, plus mary thompson. we're going to be here for a while. john, let's start with you. any signs of progress on the hill? >> reporter: nothing tangible. we saw it at the initial meeting between the presi

two-point attempt.ittle freeze-out, trying to gather his troops before the two-point try. >> joel: didn't like the defensive look. that ball was snapped and they had shown they were going to sprint out to the right. they had three wide receivers to the right. landry jones on the move. kind of like a sprint right option. that's what it's called in the west coast offense. now oklahoma has a decision. do you stay with that play call or do you go down the list. you always have planned out two, three two-point conversion play calls. looks like they've changed. their formation has changed. they still have three receivers. kenny stills one-on-one on the top of the screen. >> craig: i thought maybe we would see the bell-dozer. they go with landry jones on this two-point try. jones in the pocket, throws, corner. no. but oklahoma retains the lead of 44-43. >> joel: trying to hit the back shoulder fade. brown lost his place on the field. looked like he drifted too far. good defense by ishmael banks pushing him ove

the talking points are altered, is that right?he does still think they've been altered and it turns out that today it does appear to be right, anderson. pam benson was told that the original draft of the unclassified talking points to be sent to the intelligence committee did suggest that the benghazi attack had links to al qaeda. it was taken out, but the senior official with knowledge of this process says it was not taken out by the white house and it wasn't a white house decision, but a joint interagency decision. they decided to tone it down and they replaced it with the term extremists and the reason we are told that that was done was not political, but because the al qaeda link at the time was still tenuous and they wanted to also protect the source of that information because it was so fresh. >> as my memory serves, susan rice who was on "face the nation", who went on to say that the demonstrations which were not demonstrations were hijacked by extremist groups and she wasn't sure if it was al qaeda affiliated or libyan ext

point. >> it is your point. johnathon did you go to public school? did you go to public school. did you go? >> i went to public school. it makes no difference. >> you are successful and you are an example of the american public school system, johnathon. you can't say it is it a mess. some of it is darn good. >> you and john present a false choice. raise taxes or all kids are savages. >> that is not a false choice. wait a minute. you interrupted everybody. you irptrupted every person on the show like a one man band here. i work with these kids every single day and i understand what i am talk being. the time you lose them when they -- kid no, sir bermuda. >> shortening the school year you add poverty and incarceration and gangs. >> i think we are overlooking. >> wayne, i know johnathon wouldn't dare interrupt you at this point. what about other. what about other ways that it could have happened in california. they could have raised property taxes and 7 and half property tax it is higher here in new york. other thi

>> that's my point.ow that question because if he was answering a question about, you know, is this a concern of yours politically, that's one thing. if that was a proactive statement on his part, then he is really politicizing it. >> mika? >> richard, then katty. >> two extraordinary things. apart from the spirit here. one, i'm someone who tells the truth. he's honest. that's really important. secondly, the respect for the presidency, when someone like chris christie says, i have to pinch myself for getting on marine one, it reminds everyone, that's what real people think. and we've lost that sense in our politics. i mean, katty, we both grew up in a country where maybe deference to executive power is somewhat less, but i don't know. i'd be interested to know what you think. was his attitude towards the presidency different from what we've heard in politics recently? >> i think that this is -- the fact that chris christie has to go on television and defend doing his job and cooperating with the presiden

high shy a three-point race. columbus dispatch is a two-point race.cian of 20 years, if i'm betting, i'm betting on the president because every poll is lined up for the president. that said, you think about 1980 where everybody, every elite in manhattan and washington was sure jimmy carter was going to win. i don't care what they say now. lack at frank reynolds saying what the hell is going on out there? no one saw the reagan ref laugs coming. no one saw it coming. revisionists, nobody saw it coming. >>> when we come back, obama deputy campaign manager stephanie cutter joining us on set, "washington post" columnist eugene robinson. and mort zuckerman whose newspaper's endorsement caught some people off guard. >> they endorsed president obama, right? because they did four years ago. here is somebody who has never endorsed, bill karins. >> yeah, bill. >>> on the heels of sandy, another big storm coming. i don't have time to play with you as much as i'd like to. out here on democracy plaza, this is nbc news' big setup the next two days, we're also watchi

that's the point.gation the white house changed those talking points, that is false. >> that was senate intelligence chair dianne feinstein on "meet the press" arguing the white house was not behind the changes to the much debated benghazi talking point. joining me is retired admiral and the national communications director for rick santorum's campaign. you heard from senator feinstein. even if it wasn't the white house, which made those changes, it came from high enough up the campaign of demand it came to susan rice's desk. why does that change anything? >> i think the congress is right. it should look in to what occurred with benghazi. i think you can in the navy i learn learned inspect what you suspect. with regard to the piece of information there were terrorists involved in this attack i think we should find out. the accountability to the public is needed. the most important issue is what the accountability review board set up by mrs. clinton is trying to find out i on the ambassador? why was the

also, on the talking points which came from the cia, the famous talking points that supposedly susan rice relied upon, they said that it specifically mentioned al qaeda and al qaeda was involved in the attack. this whole process, which i believe included the white house, and when the talking points were finalized, al qaeda was taken out and it was put in that there were indications of extremist involvement in the demonstration. nothing about the attack. nothing about al qaeda. so to me, the question is, who changed the talking points on why? >> that is the big question at this point in time. would any of those people able to satisfactorily answer that for you? >> they say that they don't know. there is a long interagency process. when it left the building, meaning the cia, when they left the building, the reference to al qaeda was in there. when it came back, it was taken out. it indicated it went to the department of justice and the state department. apparently went to the national security council and public information officers and what they called the meeting and somewhere along

that is it, up 95 points, less than 40 points away from 30 points away from down 13,000. the l.a.onvention center is of motor head's dream today, the first auto show of the new model year and ford, a few new introductions. the incoming chief operating officer. >> as of saturday as a matter of fact, they do have a lot of introduction. that is a new souped up fiesta and if lands seized a green one there's a three solyndra fiesta and a lincoln exhibit and a transit connect to show you that people are more interested today in the introduction of mark fields than any of these vehicles because he is the master of these vehicles, congratulations. saturday it becomes official. >> so honored to serve in this role. >> you have done a great job in the americas, you got to fix europe and street not far east and the rest. >> it is down to execution, we will get that going forward. >> let me ask about the economy and the fiscal cliff. are you making plans right now for ford to downside production if we get a serious problem? >> we have a process where we are looking at production so no matter w

west point, because of thayers influence, west point doesn't teach much strategy. the teach cadets how to be junior officers, and the service academy to this day, we prepare our midshipmen not to be admirals but second lieutenantss and ensigns, and what point the basic grounding and the basic building blocks of military expertise, and gives them lot of engineering, probably more than they need in all honesty. so, the desire for a -- comes from more of a cultural affinity for napoleon. napoleon has -- mclelland is likened to napoleon. he sometimes strikes napoleonic pose, and there are wars where, of course, the ironies is they lose it but there are these battles where he has these crushes decisive victories and that is in many ways the model of what most west point generals are hoping to achieve. later in the war this becomes problematic and you have sherman who comes up with interesting alternatives. but much of the public and the officer corps on both sides, you want to completely destroy your opponents in the field. not just make them retreat and not just inflic

-poi -- one-point advantage. in the point of this post was i have to think that will tighten. if there's good news for iowa for mitt romney, it's that turnout probably won't be as great for democrats as it was in 2008. and i think that, you know, the tiny margin in '08 that 1% at one point has republicans thinking that iowa is gettable and it's why you've seen them sort of run into the state with an increased ground game. >> i was in iowa last year and i like to play this game where i say why should iowa be first in the nation. and they get very upset. they take their role in politics very seriously and they really try to know everything about the candidates. this is a very serious political state. i want has a progressive tradition. eve gone for a democrat four of the last five times only for bush in '04. we thent for gore, clinton twice and this is a state not feeling the pain. 5% unemployment. they didn't have the foreclosure problem. they are a prosperous state. the recession skips over iowa. they are liking obama. >> whatever happens, whoever wins and we did our election

i want to make a point.said at the time by not introducing libya for the same reason. >> bill: we aall agree. >> it would have contrast the storm. history tells us this. let's take '76 for example. against incumbent challenger. the incumbent usually gets a bounce toward the end. obama got exaggerated by the storm. okay? >> >> bill: yeah. >> in 1976, gallup on saturday night had ford 1 point ahead of carter. he had caught up. on sunday and monday, it kicked back to carter very strongly. and the reason was, because you know what the issue became suddenly was suddenly the issue was oh my god am i really going to keep gerald ford? now obama this becomes an issue for people in making last-minute decisions. >> bill: they like obama personally. all the polls say that and just like george w. bush. they like the president. they being the majority of voters. >> bill: it's the job, it's the economy. >> of course it is. >> bill: there are a few people who even at this late date don't know what they are going to do. most

if people think it's losing one other point that momentum, you have to watch out. this touches on what dan was talking about. if this company becomes a more generic consumer electronics company, margins will fall back into the same areas. if you see that you're talking about gross margin declines for maybe the low 40s to 26%. suddenly a stock that looks really cheap and it does if you just look at the ratios might not look as cheap when you start seeing margins come in if that's what happens. >> apple may have helped lead the market lower but other laggards and winners. the dow falling more than 100 points in today's session but some names that had been laggard showing strong gains over the past week. take a look at this. priceline, starbucks, netflix, names in the doghouse getting a bit of a bid. mike, it almost seems like, with the turning of the page on the calendar, people are willing to go into the beaten-down names. >> the additional point, a lot were looking cheap. look at the best performing sectors we've seen over the last week and month, this would be thi

and usually when a breakout occurs like this it is not contained to a few points. we would play for much higher prices, 57, 58, short term. >> we want to bring your attention to a headline. the new york city marathon has been canceled. this according to our affiliate wnbc which, of course, is a local news station here in new york, so the new york city marathon has been canceled. we will have more on this story as we have it but, again, this was a very controversial call made by mayor bloomberg to hold it despite with what's going on with hurricane sandy. this is what we know so far, the marathon has been canceled here. so interesting developments here as we continue to track this story and we'll bring you more on this. we're going to take a short break here for now but stay tuned. much more "options action" straight ahead. and you don't want to miss it with thinkorswim by td ameritrade. you get knock-your-socks-off tools, simple one-click orders, real-time paper trading to hone your skills, plus anytime you need it support. ♪ stocks, options, futures, and forex. ge

similarly ohio 5 point margin for obama. 8 point advantage for the democrats. 8 points in 2008. does anybody think ohio is going to be as democrat as it was in 2008. 2 points for obama. 8 point democrat in 2008. six points democrat. does anybody think it's going to be as good as it was in 2008. at mildly that's called absurd. >> bill: let me run it down for the folks. all the polls say, all of them say that prib voters are more motivated this time around. so when when mr. rove says do you think it's going to be the same democratic turnout in ohio as it was in 2008. the answer based on the data is no. because republicans are more motivated this time around than they were. secondly, when you poll, you take a political affiliation of people you call. as mr. rove just told us on his little board, his little white board he takes everywhere they poll more democrats in each of the three swing states than republicans. all right? but the folks don't know that because the "new york times" doesn't put that in the headline. so, my question to you is, do you believe, based on your experience

that leads me to point 2. >> point 2.>> which is it is totally ineffective it has exactly the opposite effect. >> bill: calm down. >> she said i have a very valid point. upset how libya something handled. i am calm. i'm perfectly calm. >> bill: she brought it down three notches when i said that. >> who are you to tell her to check her emotions. >> bill: i'm the anchor of the program. i'm in charge of this program. >> have people on here and get them stirred up and tell them to calm down. >> bill: i get them stirred up voice of region. >> don't even say it. >> bill: megyn kelly check her out at 1:00 in the afternoon. did you see that on deck. did you see that on deck. colin powell endorsing t t t t ! oh...there you go. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! i'm gonna stand up to her! no you're not. i know. you know ronny folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than a witch in a broom factory. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. or t

>> i think that is a fair point. he think what you are generally saying is that if we define "support," or possibly excluding things in the definition. i think that is a very fair point. i would also just point out subsection 4 does allow the ethics commission to propose regulations and i think the reason that we put that in there, we know that to the extent there is any potential ambiguity or loophole, people will try to go there. that is just how things go. >> this whole issue came up because of a loophole, because someone found a leap hole. >> right. so i think to some extent the ethics commission has the ability to address leap hole lope holes. the only downside if we don't define "support" at all there will be the chance of zero gay and lesbian as of what "support means." >> if we had "support" i would define it as public action or statement or actions encouraging or urging -- i will concede that i'm hoping that my hypothetic is ridiculous and it would be interpreted in the way that we have all think it should b

that's the big sticking point, taxes.as surprised right after the election we will put more revenue on the table but we will do it by closing loopholes and eliminating deductions and the president said no, you have to raise tax rates on the wealthy. how do they resolve that in six weeks? >> it all depends on whether or not the president is willing to bend. there is reason for optimism here because for the first time we have a framework. for years democrats have been saying you have to give us some revenue and as you said right after the election boehner came out and said, okay, have some revenue. but the president has moved the goalpost and said it isn't just revenue, it has to be a certain kind. my liberal base -- >> wait, wait. he did mention this once or twice during the campaign. >> but the question is are you going to stick on what you campaigned on or are you going to find a compromise? the reality is if you are looking for votes in congress, john boehner may get enough people to go along to do a deal for closing de

we are not at that point, yet. >> sean: i agree. >> we are at the point of full disclosure, at this point. i am not the president. i don't aspire to the president, nor do you. but if i am the president, my inclination is to say, listen, i found out about this at 5:00. i directed the secretary of state to do this. i directed the secretary of defense to do that. >> sean: there is one problem. he flew to vegas. >> that is a problem. that's why we are not getting the straight story yet. >> sean: thank you both. david, good to see you. don't go anywhere. when we come back, we take a look at the media mash, next. we will check in with brent bozel. but john kerry is rumored to be next in line to head up the state department. but we will take a trip down memory lane and remind americans of why wherejohn kerry is and where he stands in relation to military matters, coming up. well, if it isn't mr. margin. mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ba

they signed off on those talking points. >> you made the point.ou made the point. >> i had no choice. i had no choice at that stage. >> i want to move on to the other issues with david petraeus. he, again, was giving testimony on the hill. what was the mood like given the sex scandal surrounding him? >> we felt, i think, that he has been a person who has provided great service to the united states and that the mistake he made was a personal mistake. it was not a public mistake. it was a personal mistake. >> i sat down with house minority leader nancy pelosi. we'll hear more from that interview, but let's listen to what she said about this. >> so you don't think he should have resigned? >> well, that was his decision. that was his decision. my only -- >> but if you just think it's a personal matter, why should he resign? >> what happens in his life is not my business. what happens on the internet is i think stupid, but those are decisions that he made. i think he did something that wasn't good, and he made the honorable decision to resign. >> congr

any other comments from the commissioners on decision point 4? >> i have a question. >> yes. >> taking the language from page 14 of attachment b, read in entirety that presumes there may be commissioners that may miss the hearing and if the hearing takes one day and all of the commissioners are here, i don't think you need to make that affirmation, because you were here, you know? with witnesses. so you can put it in the way it is and it doesn't really do any harm. you just have to make that affirmation, even though you were here for the whole hearing. you could put a header in that says any commissioner not present for the entire proceedings shall and then put the language in there. i'm not trying to complicate things. it's just adds a personal level of procedure, that you don't necessarily need to go through, if everyone is here. but it won't take that long for everyone to do it. >> i think it's a good point. i certainly don't want to add additional, unnecessary procedural requirements. where would we add that? >> i would take just the last sen

last point. the investigation is ongoing and the united states government is working with libyan authorities to bring justice to those responsible for the deaths of united states citizens. this, as i understand it, was asked for by the house committee. this was given to them and it subsequently became available to anybody who asks for talking points, which the ambassador did. as i understand the process, the cia prepares additional talking points which then go through the various components of the intelligence community. those components either sign off on them, discuss them, and i believe the intelligence community signed off on the talking points. >> [indiscernible] >> not to my knowledge. >> why was there is such an amount of security today to protect the general? what's the general was igor -- >> the general was eager and willing to give his views on this. we did not want to make it any more difficult for him. you people are not always the easiest. you can blame it on us. we wanted to spare h

do we see unified talking points? is this common practice that the intel committee will get together to brief the congress and to brief the country? and is it usual they might leave out information and not spill everything? take us down that road. >> absolutely. let me say first that i took your last comments aboard and i was thinking barbara bush, the grand lady of the gop, put it very eloquently today. she said they won. get over it. move on. that's some tremendously good advice for my political party. this is still the political high season for lindsey graham and john mccain who using a description of newt gingrich seemed to be off their meds and out of therapy a little early. they need to get their act together. there are challenges this country needs to confront and it needs to confront them in a unified way. that means the republicans have to participate. but to your question, yes, this is the way it happens. when a crisis occurs, the president and ministers and others turn to the intelligence committee, normall

80 points, this is a bit of a overtrade.08, the market went up 3.5% on election day roughly 400 points. strangely, in the ex-day is usually a quiet day flat, maybe down a little. you think, gee, you know who the president is going to be, in '08, up that 400 and down over 600 the next day. so, an unusual whipsaw. i guess you have to remember that was less than two months after lehman and aig. >> exactly. definitely a different time certainly. do you think that a decision on who was president removes the biggest uncertainty for the market? there's also europe out there there's the fiscal cliff out there. which is the most important issue four the market tomorrow? >> i have been staying in writing for a week now, dear god, don't let it be close. >> yes. >> i'm afraid the nation as polarized as it is, it will be a problem. they already have the lawyers out there. the worst thing for the market if this is very close and questioned, instead of having one florida, we will wind up with six of them and rushing to the fiscal cliff wit

>> good point. still to come, the imf says it would be the fastest growing continent over the next five years. one fund manager says investing now will pay rich returns. >> find out just what we're talking about a little bit later in the show. coming up next, we'll also get the latest read on the uk economy, services data for october. it's due just after the break. >>> down to the wire with just one day to go before the election, president obama, mitt romney make one last mad dash to rally supporters. polls show them in a virtual tie. >> china's communist party is reportedly probing allegations that wen's family has amassed a giant fortune after wen himself asked for an investigation. >> and hsbc reveals it's setting aside another $1.5 billion to cover a fine related to money laundering sending shares lower. they also had an extra amount set aside for ppi charges, as well. service sector pmis, 50.6. lower than the expected 52. lowest since december 2010. the business expectations pm i-65.3, lowest s

obama won the early vote last time around, according to puke, by 19 points or was winning at this point by 19 points and now he's losing it by seven. that is more than enough to flip the election. lou: two things, if we can go back to your board, immediately apparent command e is that there is a 5-4 margin if i read correctly, democrats over republicans in the early vote in 2008 that ratio was over two times -- two times. >> almost two to one. and we are talking here about less than a 5-4 margin. we are talking about 98,000 difference on the base, and this number will continue to grow. there will be probably, the republicans are probably going to narrow that gap between the two to somewhere around 85 or 90,000 votes. and i repeat, on election day is a starkly that republicans have carried the vote, even when president obama was winning the state in 2008, he was losing the election they vote. and these republican number are a sign of the ground game in ohio that is strong. the young guy who is running it, scott jennings, he used to work with me at the white house. he told me in early oct

>> i think it's a good point. >> does it answer a particular question? >> i think it's a good point. we have had had occasions where members of the public have asked for things to be in a certain format and sort of repeatedly demanded that they be in a certain format and when we're ambiguous or when we're silent, then it leads to confusion. >> so the emphasis that i think i hear in your comment is that we need not include the findings of law and fact in this document is the permission not to do it, not the fact that we may do so when we want to? it might be very cumbersome and they will be publicly available in other ways? >> so me that is the benefit of the language. >> okay. thanks. >> any other questions or comments from the commissioners on chapter 2? i had a question about c2. we don't permit -- it doesn't appear that we permit email exchange there, like we do in the corresponding section for willful

goes your point.ro chance you're listening to me right now. if there was no fox news, no other voices, we never would have known about al gore's opinions about climate change during hurricane sandy. or get an amazing rebuttal from joe pistardi on "o'reilly factor." >> the storms are getting stronger. the stronger storms are getting more frequent. this is the second time in two years that part of manhattan has been shut down. that didn't use to happen like this. but the evidence is now so overwhelming. >> that is stunningly ignorant or stunningly deaccepttive what al gore said. he doesn't know what he is talking about. every since he shot his mouth off about katrina we have seen global tropical activity go to the record low levels. just because something happens in your backyard, two years in a row, it has nothing to do with the total picture. >> greg: what he is saying from the '50 to '64, ten major hurricane. so there is less hurricane activity than now. so, linking global warming and climate change

at this point katrina, most folks that had their power restored. neil: that's a very good point. the idea that this campaign by governor romney has come this close . great second-guessing, but the real emphasis will have to be for the republican party irrespective of whether governor romney windsor knot, helen the world that is corrupt the opportunity that was theirs for the u.s. senate? how is it that the republican party seems so at a touch with the american people that they could lose all of these opportunities and actually be dominated rhetorically and in the language and messaging of campaigning in 2012. does what happened. neil: missouri right now goes for mitt romney, leading by two points. i don't think that's a shock. again, pick up ten electoral votes. another alert. power restored. >> excellent. congratulations. let's hope that the rest of new jersey -- neil: lou has a nuclear power generator powering his compound. >> i want to give credit to sussex rural electric who delivers on their problems. >> something happened. let's go to bed cheryl. taking a look at how these

that's what i am saying. >> good point. bill, i have to say, you point out that you don't have a problem with the affair, bill. and i honestly don't really have a problem with the affair except for the fact that this could have been an affair with a loon gnaw particular in which case it would have completely compromised our national security. that's something to worry about, right? >> that is something to worry about. i am more worried about the fbi guy with the shirtless picture. that takes a certain type of dude. >> i have heard some rumors about you, bill, so i don't know if you want to go there. >> you know i don't know how to use the camera option on my phone. >> when you say worried about the shirtless guy you say interested in hearing about it? >> not an english major. jay -- >> sandra. you say something simple which is why can't they just not do it when it comes to the affairs. i want to point out that is way too much common sense for politics. never do that again. >> thank you, jedediah. >> there is no room for com

but brings up a good point. when we do the topics on government waste and how they waste all the money on robotic squirrels and all the other things now is the time to look at your priorities. and say this is what we really need government to do. this is why government is there. >> bob: that's why governor christie gave great compliments to obama. governor romney called for end of fema in the campaign, primary. >> dana: you know what? bob, that is really -- it's absolutely grossly unfair. president obama's budget last year, $900 million is what he suggested cutting. nobody in washington could look at the program and say that it couldn't be improved upon. that is what governor romney said. governor, who knows a little something about the state/federal relationship. knows what it means to work with the federal government hind the red tape, which is what president obama called for cutting is a problem. not a program that couldn't be improved on. >> bob: that' romney said shuttr fema. >> dana: that doesn't mean he w

well actually as a largely from the automatic earth dot com points out the d.t.c. see again which is owned by the wall street banks which also only new york fed where they spent a huge amount of money to protect some traditional gold and they spend no money as you see i'll show you an image of the d.c.c. building you see is huge tall fifty five stories some how the paper thirteen point two trillion of the thirty five trillion apparently washed away that paper washed away but largely points out that d.t.c. has been for years trying to get all the wall street banks to. not ask for the collection of the actual paper now they break down from the automatic earth is about that the paper there the thirteen point two trillion if you divide it into one point three million pieces of paper that would have equal about ten million in stock value in each certificate so however because of this disaster the d.t.c. c. has said that quote it has suspended processing of physical certificates for an indefinite period so they're trying to say that everybody should just collect it elect