it is going to take -- it is not going to take finger pointsing. it is not going to -- every side has to acknowledge the fact that there has been a problem relationship here for a long time and that borte parties are involved in that -- both parties have been involved in that relationship and it is not for people to come in now without really getting into it and pointing the finger at the other and saying you're the violator and since i'm the bigger and most powerful, i'm going to declare you guys get punished. we have acknowledged that there are difficulties with the program. i think that if the police department is being honest with themselves, they will have to accept some responsibility for the relationship also and hopefully as a result of these discussions that we're having, we can have a good discussion with the specials, the police force and the clients who are hiring the specials to be involved in this discussion in a meaningful way that leads to conciliatory environment. so thank you very much for your time. and for your interest in this