in fact, she was even called back to testify at pol pots or the pol pot people put on trial in phnomenh in recent years. and i just mention that because i think it's true that women had, first of all, a very difficult time to work there. but some of the ones who did did very, very good work and particularly in this area outside of the banh banh. ted koppel: and just a footnote to what barrie said. many women couldn't be hired as staff correspondents to come out to vietnam. so many of the women there working as correspondents were freelance. they came out on their own dime. and they didn't get paid unless and until they were able to sell a story to a newspaper, or to a magazine, or to one of the networks. so you did have quite a few women reporters out there, but they were not staff correspondents. barrie dunsmore: no, no. in fact, becker was a freelancer, yeah. terry irving: you mentioned cambodia which i got to tell you, writing this book, i thought cambodia was about the scariest place i ever even heard of. because there were no frontlines. there were no rear lines. the corresponde