developed as chcobes iemonitompring sanystem that ald them to have control over the activity of the polasigned to control everything in society.onpu >> sifn:rihi.s w bs chcongncries a whe house official talking to me called this authoritarianism in a box. auwhat's your response to that? >> what do you want me to say? i think it's also liberation in a box. i think it's also city managementnd being very efficient in daily operations, in a box. >> schifrin: is it being used r surveillance? >> well, what you're looking at is an element of intelligence ogrlondwolide.mmhn tecich isy ae like every technology, it can be used in certain ways. >> schifrin: does that concern you, that some of these countries might be using this-- >> personally, yes, of course. i'm a person, just l everybody else is a person.ve i ha my own concerns and my own views, and yes, of course, that is a concern. >> schifrin: but the genie's out of the bottle. huawei's been packaging smartg cities andr years. the u.s. is trying to contain huawei's expansion, and is building its own 5g systems. but the u.s. is behind, says an