police unions seem to be a sort of interesting institution. and i understand how up set, anguished, grief-stricken police officers are in new york. but what is your reaction to the kind of rhetoric we've been seeing from the police unions here in new york. >> i think it's unnecessarily hot it is obviously filled with a lot of emotion. i think those tensions are still playing, being played out. there's a clear distrust of this mayor by the police. the mayor's rhetoric has not done anything to create a sav for that, to sort of calm that and to bring the parties together. i think, today, in this press conference, and certainly in visiting the family the communities need these two groups, these two entities, these two individual groups to work together. that is the basis for, you know, all types of community policing. it begins and ends on the neighbor honay hoo neighborhoods and the streets of new york. we've had the businessman's association there in saint lewis. i've been struck by the ewe no, ma'am anymorety and uniformity of the kind of rhetor

police union leaders are telling police to take extra safety precautions now, overall arrests in new york city as we reported plunged more than 60% since the daylight murders of officers liu and ramos. and despite a meeting with police union leaders today, new york's mayor has done nothing to resolve his dispute with rank and file police officers. and while new york city residents back new york's finest, the "new york times" backs new york's leftists. unsurprisingly. the "new york times" editorial board blasted the men and women in blue in this city for turning their backs on the mayor and wrote, quote -- well, not so. the "new york times" it seemed to me described almost perfect detail, the "new york times," not the new york police department. it is the times and its ideological op-ed pages shredding and defacing the once proud lady of the journalists. it is the time not the nypd pandering to a left wing mayor and the interest groups of the left. and it is the times that has fallen from proud watchdog of government and power to pink lapdog of the left. >>> now quotation of the eveni

the relationship is that bad between the police unions and the mayor. 's right, the rhetoric has to stop. the unions are not happy with his alliance with the reverend al sharpton. maybe he has to put distance in that relationship, but he's got a send a signal. think about this, christmas is right around the corner and the funeral for officer ray mows will be 48 hours after christmas. christmas will never be the same for those families. this mayor is under a major test only a year into his term. there are rum blinks by some that may be a one term mayor. >> police commissioner said can you name one mayor in the history of this city that has not had a battle with the police union? can you, in your 30 years? >> the commissioner was 1000% correct making that comment, but keep in mind, he's employed by this mayor, this mayor could fire him, so the mayor is in a very tough position, and i don't know how he's going to fix this situation, so the first question becomes what happens with the demonstrations? i don't think most good will new yorkers are going to be t

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when i was governor, i knew this same police union had pat lynch. i had already known him on the job for nine years. >> this is the president of the union who said the blood is on the hands of the mayor. >> i talk to him all the time even when i signed a bill that he disdained in 2010 and mayor bloomberg and commissioner kelly didn't have much nice to say about the fact that i signed a bill but they didn't have anything to say about me because i had a relationship with them. i think the mayor has to realize that you're governing all of the people and you have to reach out to all of them and sometimes -- this is what they also say about president obama. sometimes you have to sit down and have dinner with people you disagree with but you all have kids in college or something to connect with and i see right now no connection between the government and the union. >> that's exactly what reverend calvin butts who was sitting up here very well known figure in the church community in harlem and new york saying who is mayor de blasio talking to? and so he's

there's been heat the rhetoric exchange between police unions and politicians. as the new york times notes a widening rift between new york city mayor bill de blasio and the police department has been ripped open. one police union said the mayor has bloods on the hands after the way he portrayed police. police officers also turn their backs on mayor de blasio as he and the police commissioner walked through a hospital saturday to address the officer's deaths. an action bratton criticized this morning on the "today" show. >> i don't know that the apology is necessary. >> msnbc has learned from a source close to the police union that the obama administration, new york governor andrew cuomo, and bill de blasio reached out to the police union not to do interviews and not to politicize the situation. msnbc adam reese joins us live in brooklyn where the memorial for the two officers is growing. adam, let's talk about what will happen in a couple of hours. mayor de blasio is scheduled to police at the athletic league luncheon. what do we know about the remarks and what

attending today's meeting, head wills of the five police unions including one of the mayor's most outspoken critics, patrick lynch, president of the patrolman's benevolent association. it was lynch who claimed the mayor's hands are with you literally dripping with the blood of police after two officers ramos and wenjian liu were exited by a edxcited by a disturbed gunman. andy, the meeting is closed to the press, but what do we know about the agenda? >> the meeting is going on as we speak and we know that the mayor reached out himself over the weekend to set this up. it's an attempt to kind of turn an enemy potentially into a friend. this is a mayor who prides himself on keeping his own council, on keeping a circle of true believers that he makes decisions with who thinks it's a sichb strength that he doubles down on the promises he made during the cam pan thatkamcampaign that got him elected. this meeting is a chance when he to reach out to someone that his supporters think pat lynch speaks for a minority of his own union when he says things like the mayor's hands are covered in blood for

here's the thing, the theoretical police union that might exist, the actual police unions that we've seen have not only fought tooth and nail, but they have fought against all the policy that is you're talking ashlt. they fought against new training. >> for any of the forms that the mayor wants to imp lemt, it has to go through the ranking fielg. now, i don't know what the ranking nile is vis-a-vis the leadership. i think we should separate that. and they're talking about empathy between their neighbors. so i wouldn't want to cast a large net to say this is terrifying. >> that's exactly my point. one of the matters is all of the policing in this room. and when you see it in st. louis talking about thugs. then the question is, okay, these are the institutional players that are the actual stake holders in how people are going to be police pd and how we're going to train those police. >> i think we could have a whole discussion about strategy to vote oet those e lekked leaders. i think that's the way to go. that has to be -- there has to be a different strategy versus the putting the pr

do you believe the police union and mr. h, should they apologize for the statements that they've made? >> sorry, i'm shook up a little bit. you're asking me if the police should apologize? i'm saying the mayor should apologize first. that's the start. this is a long history with the police department and mayor de blasio. he has turned his back on the new york city police department. he has shown disdain for new york city police officers and this is the result of this even before the two officers were killed they signed a petition that they don't want the mayor to come to a funeral. so this was already brewing and it was going to come to a point. p did this guy -- >> so you don't think the mayor allowing the protests to continue was a part of this? >> as far as the mayor allowing the -- him calling it off right now you're trying to say or what? >> no, before that. he was allowing the protests. >> it's not allowing. the police are not -- they do so many protests around the city with everything else. it's the fact they were say

trace: bill deblasio was attending a closed door meeting with the police union head yesterday. but it apparently didn't do much to ease the tensions between the mayor and the police. >> it was described as blunt but not impolite conversation between the mayor and five police unions. no resolutions came out of the talks but one person says the lengths of the talks was at least a sign the two side can communicate as professionals. the nypd has been brewing with anger after months of criticism. >> there were a number of discussions especially about the safety issues our members face. there was no resolve and our thought here today is actions speak louder than word, and time will tell. >> we had no comment from the mayor after the meeting but his press secretary said the talks focused on building a productive dialogue. trace: officers turned their backs on deblasio during rafael ramos' funeral. >> reporter: last night according to reports he insisted the recent nypd protests had nothing to do with these murders. deblasio admitted in the meeting he had to quote turn them back around

community leaders condemned killings that have provoked tensions between the police union and the mayorwe explain. >> a city in grief after an unfathomable act of violence. at st. patrick's cathedral, police officials attended a special mass. in brooklyn, a visual was set up at the site where officers raphael ramos and liu wenjin were shot and killed at point-blank range saturday. >> i hope and pray we can reflect on this tragic loss of life that has occurred so we can move forward and find an amicable path to a peaceful coexistence. >> the suspect, 28-year-old ismaaiyl brinsley later killed himself in a brooklyn subway station. officials say he may have outlined his intentions on a social media posting prior to the attack. "i'm putting wings on pigs. they take on e of ours, let's take two of theirs." >> most of his postings and rants are on instagram. we are seeing anger against the government. he burns a flag and makes statements. there are others with talks of anger at the police. he mentions michael brown and eric carter. >> eric garner and michael brown were killed by white police

mayors are afraid of police unions. not all mayors but they have lobbyists and money and know when the police union comes out against you when you're running for office the public goes oh, oh, what's going on. >> the history these federal prosecutions have been more successful. when we talk about policy changes we have to look at state grand juries and state investigations of police uses of excessive force and misconduct and ask if that's really the way forward. >> you look at what's going -- i think the grand jury process and again al sharpton talked about this yesterday morning, that's the first thing you have to look at and specifically when it involves cops. i'm not saying it's rigged, i'm not saying it's fixed, you can talk about the politics of it. but also if i'm a d. a.i'm not going to piss off cops because i depend on cops to come in and testify for me. >> it's an incestuous relationship. >> it has to be a close relationship. let me tell you something. new york city is safer today than it's been in ages so ther

listen to what we tell us -- tell you and just stop. >> when police face allegations of misconduct, the unions and departments often band together. but as this con tro verse e ver sill has continued in cleveland and beyond, we have some breaking news to report to you tonight. this evening, the police chief issued a new statement breaking with the union chief and taking with a different view. in his new statement, he says . >>> three weeks after a grand jury decided not to indict,

meanwhile the police commissioner is defending the mayor against criticism from the police unions.e said it was wrong for officers to turn their back on the mayor and this is not the first time they have clashed. >> can you point out to me one mayor that's not been battling with the police unions in the last 50 years? name one. name one. so the experience of this man in terms of some cops not liking him, there's nothing new. it's part of life. it's part of politics and it is what it is. this is new york city. we waste our corn certains and voice our opinions. >> and new york goff nor wants the city to move forward instead of debating who is to blame. >> the mayor has my full support. the union leaders have my full support. the community activists have my full support. >> how can the mayor and the union leaders have your full support given what they've both said. >> see you want to say who is right and who is wrong and one person is good and one person is bad. i think that's the negative cycle that we are in. i don't want to point fingers. i don't want to cast blame. >> so the famil

>> michael as you know, mayor deblasio has a contentious relationship with the police union. he was asked about that comment today whether he has blood on his hands. deblasio says it is not time to fully respond to that comment by the head of the police union. >> i think we need to honor the families by not getting into a back-and-forth. there will be a time for me to talk about my own personal views. i will simply say i think what he said was a mistake and it was wrong. but i'm not going to elaborate because we need to focus on the families. we need to focus on healing. >> reporter: and police commissioner bill bratton said police have agreed to tone down their rhetoric. mayor deblasio said he will attend the funerals of the two officers. many have said he should stay away, but out of respect for these families, michael we are told that one group planning a protest for tomorrow in new york city that protest will go on as planned. >> lisa, police also provided an update into the officers' deaths, what do we know about the suspect? >> he apparently tried to kill himself about

was booed and heckled at the nypd graduation bill deblasio meeting today with the heads of five police unions. kelly wright here with the latest this morning. good morning kelly. >> good morning to you as well. in an effort to reconcile with police deblasio is conducting an emergency meeting today with leaders of the police union. the mayor calling for the meeting following his speech at the graduation of more than 800 rookie cops. his speech was punk waited with boos. >> congratulations officers. the only applause came when he said new york finest were peacekeepers reading from matthew. they shall be called sons of god. those in uniform who keep the peace they have a lack of faith in the mayor. >> the mayor needs to humble himself. he needs to change his philosophical views to policing and to the way protests have occurred within the city on the backs of police officers. >> duringsome nypd officers show their disappointment in the mayor by turning their backs towards him as he spoke. >> this is a mayor that has decided to make common cause with al sharpton. a man who made his name. rich and

the police union leader is blaming the mayor for creating an environment of angry police anger. >> let'sring in john now live in brooklyn. the mayor facing stiff resistance from nypd rank and file, some want him to resign and the union penalty said the officers' blood is on his hands. >> the relationship between the mayor and nypd has been going south since he campaigned for office when he talked about ending stop and frisk, something that has now happened. hit got bad after the grand jury decisions were handed up, the nypd unhappy with the way the mayor handle the the protests that followed here in new york and also criticism that he had of them and the way they handled the death of eric garner in stanton island. the mayor has been low key about this, but his spokesman said it's unfortunate that at a time of great tragedy some would resort to irresponsible overheated rhetoric that angers and divides people. the mayor is out today attending a luncheon being given by the police athletics league which he is expected to address these issues. >> let's talk about the suspect here. before the

the police unions are doing what the protesters have asked for. and b e deblasi orksz has held the line. there hasn't been a giant spike in crime, but arrests are down substantially. summons and tickets have basically disappeared for a week now. police are simply not doing many of the more aggressive and active things they have been. and in a very, very tight period of time without most of the city having recognized this has happened, the effect has been not much. >> so you're saying that there is actually a work slow down? or at least slow down is the wrong word. they have changed -- at the ground level, police have changed the way they're enforcing the law? >> in a big way. so arrests drop a bunch. big crime arrests, down. enforcement stuff basically disappeared. in the 7-9 and the 8-4, there was one ticket in the last week. 626 in the week before that, for reference. >> oh, wow. so they are doing something. i mean -- >> it e they stopped doing all police work except for the real necessary stuff. is that sustainable? no one knows. we might find

. >> the cleveland police union demands an apology from the cleveland browns. one of the browns players andrew hawkins walked on to the field on sunday wearing this t-shirt. it called for justice for tamir rice. the police union said the team should stick to what it knows best and that would be football. >> jon: wait. stick to what? no football, we're talking about the cleveland browns, right? i mean-- (laughter) random cheap shot at the cleveland browns. look, it's not as if there isn't a conversation warranted about the cleveland police department by t-shirt or otherwise. >> cleveland's police force has been under federal investigation since 2013. the justice department examined over 600 cases within the cleveland division of public police engaged in a pattern and practice of using excessive force. >> jon: well, i guess the only difference is when football players use excessive force, they get penalized. and if that-- 15 yards, am i wrong? (laughter) >> jon: and if that football player disrespected the officer who shot and killed tamir rice, a 12-year-old hol

built for business. >>> after the cleveland browns home game on sunday the president of the city's police union nfl player andrew hawkins, quote, pathetic for wearing a t-shirt protesting two police killings in the year. the wide receiver is not apologizing a shirt for wearing, quote, justice for tamir rice, john crawford, during warmups. the 12-year-old what so the and killed while carrying a pellet guck, and crawford was fatally shot while holding an air rifle he got in the wal-mart store. he policemen said it's pa the thick when athletes claim to know the law. the cleveland police protect the browns stadium and browns organization owes us an apology. he continued, he is an athlete, someone with no facts and should stick to playing football and let us worry about law enforcement. earlier today, hawkins himself defended his decision. >> my mom taught me my entire life to respect law enforcement. i have family, close friends who are incredible police officers, and i tell them all the time how they're much braver than me for it. unfortunately my mom also taught me that just as there are good pol

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applause monday a reflection of police distrust of the first-term mayor who has been hammered by the police unions for seeming too sympathetic to protesters who have questioned tactics in several cases. >> thank you for choosing what is a noble calling.

the reason why they've up set some people, is that your statements seem to presuppose that the police unionr the police officers have the final word on the facts here. you know that's not true. you know we have a section of the grand juries and the criminal justice process. and people are free to talk about it? >> they're free to talk about it. but it shouldn't be talked on a football field where we are supporting the browns by doing security. every day when we support the browns. >> are you saying -- this is what i'm trying to understand. you said before this wouldn't change your approach. why does your security that you provide and police bravely provide security for entire cities, stadiums or not. why would that affect his free speech rights? you're really not answering that question? >> he can voice his opinion. and that's fine. but i'm just saying that calling for justice for his opinion on what happened that day, he's wrong. that's what i'm clearly stating. and these two were cleared by a city prosecutor already. this shooting was gist filled. like i said, it's a tragedy that it was a

do you see an improvement in what you're hearing from the police union and the mayor or are they just masking what will vent explode again here? >> the ultimate solution is the police and the public together and i think in 2013 the police approval rating in new york was 70%. there's a lot of room. i would have bet, you know, everything that the people of bedford would be upset about any police officer getting killed. they understand what the police do. it's not to say there aren't issues there. there's tremendous respect, i think for service and dedication among the police force. particularly in poor communities. that's my experience as a former cop in brooklyn. >> we saw eric garner's children go to the site and give respect there. what is your hope at this point that now some of the higher emotion, some of the finger pointed died down. what do we see as the next as we prepare to lay these officers to rest. >> yeah, this is a moment of transition, i believe for all people of good will. there are a whole host of issues that need to be unpacked. one, i believe, is mental illness. every

now there are growing questions as to whether that display was appropriate and whether the police unionbeing fair. chuck canterbury is president of the national fraternal order of police. chuck, good to see you tonight. did the police, were they too disrespectful to the mayor? >> well, megyn, first of all, respect is earned. and i believe in this particular case after the assassination of two of their comrades in arms, emotions led to their belief that they could not look at mayor de blasio with any kind of a respect. and i believe they made that decision individually they made that decision. and i have to standby that decision because in the position they're in losing a fellow comrade or comrades they did what they felt they had to do. >> is this about blaming the mayor for those deaths? or is it about a general aggravation and disdain for him and his rhetoric as of late? >> well, megyn, this mayor ran on a campaign of police reform. >> he's out there a bunch of racial profilers based on stop and frisk. he suggested that many times. >> well, he's absolutely wrong. racial profiling's be

he said, quote, can you point out to me one mayor that has not been battling with the police union in the last 50 years? the investigation continues all owe ismaaiyl brinsley is dead because officials say families have the right to know. and there is no surveillance video taken at a shopping area in brooklyn not far from the scene about three hours before the shooting took place. authorities want to find out what brinsley was doing for that time before the shooting to make sure there were no other accomplices. they are asking others in the public for help and also we're hearing from the widow of one of the officers killed in the attack. officer liu's wife of two months spoke about her personal loss. >> we would like to express our condolence to the officer and her family. this is a difficult time for both of our families. but we will stand together and get through this together. thank you. >> reporter: as far as the services for the officers, the service for ramos will be on saturday. the liu family is waiting for family from china. christine. >> police officers now dealing with new t

the head of the new york city police officer's union. snarling sense of victim hood bob, cops are being killed they put their lives on the line. the new york times to say that about new york nypd amazing. the "new york times" is on times square. do you think these people that you wrote that about should be -- maybe they should turn their backs on times square and the times building. >> that was a remarkably aggressive and bad editorial. >> i said he had a bad line and he never should have done it. i will agree with the "new york times," it is a pity party. >> when all those code pink protesters, bum rushed condi rice, or when they occupy protesters, they love that stuff. >> who does? >> the "new york times." they were applauding that. >> i'm not defending the "new york times." >> but when the police officers protest when they silently turn their backs? >> the police department is the best in the country and it was the worst in the country 25 years ago. >> the "new york times" needs to apologize for that. >> i think tomorrow night, new ye

. >> the deaths of two officers have highlighted mounting tensions between police union officials and the mayor whom they accuse of putting officers' lives at risk with his support for recent protests, involving the eric garner choke hold death and the police shooting of michael brown. >>. >> they tried to tear down when new york city police officers did every day. we tried to warn. it must not go on. it cannot be tolerated. that's blood on the hands starts on the steps of city hall in the office of a mayor. in an apparent show of defiance, police officers gathered at the hospital where the explain officers were taken, and they turned their back on the mayor as he entered for saturday's press conference. >> alexander field joins me live for a growing memorial. a vigil will be held later tonight as we nantd it. alexander, there has been a lot of reaction to this. what else are you hearing there on the streets today? >> it's just that the emotions are so raw. the reality of what happened out here on this street corner in broad daylight so gut-wrenching that -- there are also a lot of pe

the steps of city hall police unions themselves. but this really is a furtherance and display of the us against them mentality which in large part has prevented law enforcement and this police department from moving forward and being progressive thinkers. they are resistant to change. anything that is slightly progressive, they oppose it. and they really dig their heels in. but this has much more to do with the ongoing contract negotiations as well as their own internal union elections, which are coming up shortly, than any comments that mayor de blasio made in regard to advising his son or any of the other protests. i find it fascinating that for a protest for this -- for them to be anti -reform protest, they showed a huge protest at the funeral of one of their colleagues who was assassinated. it's shameful and hypocritical. >> on this issue of pat lynch, the elections coming up, how much of this issue is about him and how much of this issue is about having the first democratic mayor since david dinkens? >> well i think it is kind o

new york city hall and the police unions are putting aside their differences out of respect for the two the weekend. mayor de blasio asked the city to let the families prepare to bury their loved ones. >> all i can say is this is a time for every new yorker to think about these families, focus on these families. put them first. we can do that by respecting their pain, respecting their time of mourning. i'm asking everyone and this is across spectrum to put aside protests, put aside demonstrations, until these funerals are past. let's focus just on these families and what they have lost. >> mayor de blasio also during that press conference got into a testy exchange with one reporter who asked about protests such as these where demonstrators used racist language and called for quote dead cops. >> we've talked about this so many times i'm going talk about it again. now the question is what your guys going to do? your going to keep dividing us? i'm not talking about every single one of you. let's get real. just in that question, 25,000 people marched down one of our streets a few days back.

but the police union also lashed out at mayor bill de blasio for not being more supportive of the nypdcomments made in the wake of the grant jury's decision. >> what police officers felt yesterday after that press conference is that they were thrown under the bus. that they were out there doing a difficult job in the middle of the night protecting the rights of those to protest, protecting our sons and daughters and the mayor was behind microphones like this throwing them under the bus. >> reporter: now mayer deblasio has spoken about this case in intensely percentage terms. keep in mind the mayor's wife is black and he has biracial children and he has shared his fears for the safety of his biracial son here in new york city. now, today when mayer deblasio came out to speak he was full of praise for the nypd in their handling of last night's frosts which were largely peaceful. but he also reiterated his position that the police need to change the way in which they engage with the community. >> the relationship between police and community has to change. the way we go about policing has

normally between the rank and file union membership and the management of these particular five police unionss fair to say that that which you may see done by a small group or expressed by the union leadership is not necessarily the sentiment and the desires of the rank and file. and that's very common throughout the history of the police department. >> i want to get to another point made in "the new york times" editorial today. it says officers often feel beleaguered, jerked around by supervisors and politicians, obligated to follow rules and policies that can be misguided, held responsible for their mistakes in ways the public is not, exposed to frequent ridicule and hostility from the people they've sworn to serve. it's always been that way with cop cops. but none of those grievances can justify the snarling sense of victim hood that seems to be motivating the anti- deploez owe campaign. the belief that department is never wrong, it never needs redirection or reform, only reverence. this is the few peddled by union officials like patrick lynch, the president of the patrolmans benevolent as

roy police unions today. officers blame de blasio for contributing to the anti anti-police sentiment. now, today's meeting comes just days after the funeral as the mayor spoke at that funeral. thousands of officers turned their backs to him. yesterday de blasio received another icy reception. mayor de blasio was booed at a police graduation ceremony yesterday. police union leaders are, again, accusing him of fostering an anti-police atmosphere. >> a very difficult time in this city, in this country, in this department. but we will work forward towards it. >> officer ramos was laid to rest this weekend. lui's liu's funeral will take place on saturday. >>> a congressman from new york will resign after pleading guilty to tax evasion charges.i ç admitted to underreporting receipts from a restaurant he ran in 2007 and 2010. he also said he hired undocumented immigrants and paid him cash which he also didn't report. >>> from our jersey shore bureau this morning, a mother stands accused of driving drunk with her chi

it was the president of the police union. e is a problem, however, with the fact that in the case of cleveland, for example, the department has investigated the police department twice. police officers are engaging in a pattern and practice in violation of the fourth amendment. additionally the report also found that the city failed to train and equip officers with basic tools to do their jobs. so, really, this is an opportunity for the police union to really work to build credibility, trust and create a police department that is constitutionallily effective, bias-free, well trained and well equipped. >> thank you for that clarification. i think it's a very important discussion. one of the other things mr. fullmer said last night on "all in" on our air is that these officers have already been found to have been justified in this shooting. to your knowledge, is that the case? >> that is not the case. >> so this case is still open, the shooting of tamir rice? >> the case is still being investigated. i believe the city has 90 day

the police union in new york circulated a form letter which officers could sign, saying they didn't want de blasio coming to their funerals if they died in the line of duty. police turned their backs on the mayor after he came to the hospital after the police officers' death. >> that blood on the hands starts on the steps of city hall and the office of the mayor. >> reporter: de blasio's office calls it overheated and irresponsible. tonight, an ominous concern from howard safer, out of concern for their own safety, police across the country won't take the extra steps they usually take to protect the public. >> somebody gets a call that there's a domestic dispute in an apartment. they pull up to the apartment building, they don't see anything, they report it at unsubstantiated. >> reporter: without even going in? >> i'm not suggesting that would happen. i'm suggesting it's possible. >> howard safer says he remembers back in the 1970s and 1980s in new york when during a time of more violence towards police, the police were called, quote, blue flower pots, because they sat in their cars not

meantime, the city's police union is blaming the mayor for siding with anti-cop protesters over the police. >> there's blood on many hands tonight. that blood on the hands starts on the steps of city hall in the office of the mayor. >> bringing in now gill alba, a former nypd detectivetive and president of alba investigations. good to have you here. >> good to be here. >> there's so much to cover but when it comes to the current atmosphere, what concerns you most. >> they have to get together, the city of new york, police department and the mayor. is it going to be easy? no. it's a tragedy these two officers were killed and the way they were killed and the assassination when this guy comes from out of town and kills them. we all feel sorry for the families. they go through all these kind of emotion from sorrow to anger. now the anger comes out and who is it against? mayor de blasio, this started from his campaign originally. no doubt he is against police officers and they feel that. so they have to get together at some point. >> edward mullens, he's the sergeant's president and he wrote a

in an effort to try and improve relations with the police, the mayor met with five police unions. camera crews were kept away from the closed door meeting at the police academy. the head of the police benevolence association, who accused the mayor of having blood on his hands after two police officers were slain. meanwhile, a coalition of activists held a news conference asking police to ignore the mayor's request and to suspend protests and demonstrate on new year's eve. citing the deaths of unarmed black men in police confrontations are planning to march in new york's times square. >> there will be no new year with the same old mess going down. >> in recent years, more than 1 million people have celebrated in times square. tomorrow should be no different. security will be tight. barricades are in fact, already in place on neighboring streets to control the crowd. reaction from the potential revelers is mixed. >> people helping you, your fighting against them. it doesn't make any sense. >> i'm a bit hesitant to come here tomorrow night. >> i trust the police. i don't trust the peo

it culminated when the leader of the police union said this. >> there's blood on many hands tonight.d on the hand starts on the steps of city hall in the office of the mayor. >> well, some people distrust de blasio and that goes back to his campaign. politico is reporting tensions ran both away. quote, according to a former de blasio aide, during the campaign in 20 alternate, de blasio's team was convinced that members of his police detail were eavesdropping on his private conversations in his city-assigned car. things got so bad that de blasio would step into the street to make sure he was out of ear shot of those protecting him. joining us now, harold ford, former u.s. congressman of tennessee. and marq claxton director of the black law enforcement alliance. marq, do you think de blasio is responsible personally for the rhetoric that made police officers feel he was on the other side from them? >> no, absolutely not. as a matter of fact, much of the rhetoric is par for the course given the history of new york relationships between the police unions and city hall. nothing new. the r

time, time of death of two police officers there to even incorporate any aspect of politics and it was really sad and well beneath what normally occurs within the pba, the unions themselves. there is a deep void and it's a widening void between the mayor and his police department, but this is not anything unique. it happened in '92 under david dinkins here in new york. it happened when rudy giuliani was the mayor. it happened when bloomberg was the mayor. there's always been this kind of dwig divide. it happens behind the scenes, which is not only their election process but ongoing contract negotiations. but this is really a time that the city needs to deal with, you know, the loss of these two brave police officers' lives and leave the politics and all of the vial rhetoric out of it. >> remember the two officers, wenjian lieu and ramos. the politics was accentuated by the director for police benevolent association, patrick lynch. >> we tried to warn. it must not go on. it cannot be tolerated. that blood on the hands starts on the steps of city hall in the office of the mayor. >> so, evy, as we listen to lynch there and you see his statement, what's the relati

protests against police. the union heads representing san francisco, oakland and san jose published a letter today. saying the demonstrations have gone from being about free speech -- to villifying officers. the union leaders say they're concerned about the safety of police.and are asking for more constructive talks. still ahead.the little dog in sacramento who has astonished everyone by being around this christmas. we'll explain. a warm-hearted holiday tradition in san francisco is in its final hours. how you can still join in. and critics aren't exactly bowled over.but you can finally see the movie "the interview". where it's showing in the bay area. female announcer: it's time to make room for the new mattress models! during sleep train's huge year end clearance sale, get beautyrest, posturepedic, even tempur-pedic mattress sets at low clearance prices. save even more on floor samples, demonstrators, and closeout inventory. plus, free same-day delivery, set-up, and removal of your old set. why wait for the new model

we heard from pat lynch, the president of the new york city police union. blasting mayor de blasio accusing him of throwing police officers under the bus. in an exclusive interview tonight he had a lot more to say about the death of eric garner. joining me is a former secret service agent, "new york times" columnist charles blow and dr. kobilinsky. mr. lynch was saying, it wasn't a choke hold and if it had been a choke hold, he would have died of asphyxiation which is not what he died of. >> well, we do know that the airway was not blocked. he was able to speak "i can't breathe." airway was not blocked. however, there was an obstruction of the jugular veins which means that blood was going up to the brain but not returning. that is seen by the petechia, the pinpoint hemorrhages found in the gums and the eyelids and on the whites of the eye. there's no question there was that kind of affsphyxiffix -- a. strap muscles in the neck, hemorrhage on all of them. then we know about decompression of the chest. what he died of, what mr. garner died of, actually, is a

police. don't generalize for your own profit and your own uh jean do. >> greg, what is the deal with with -- why is the teacher's union in so good with the democrats, but the police -- it is similar. they are municipal unions. they do the hardest work in bad neighborhoods, right? why is it the democrats can't get square with the police union? >> i don't know. that's a tough question and i did not prepare for it. the police union is the only union i like. it is the only one i like. every time i run into a cop they are always massive massive "red eye" fans. usually they are up all night. >> they watch it in realtime. >> exactly. and they know everything about it. that's not -- teachers, that's not the case. teachers don't -- i think teachers unions are used in a way to make their lives easier and protect -- and allow them to work forever. and with cop unions it is basically to keep them alive. maybe that's why. i don't know. >> republicans are always -- they always find a way to defend the police and the police unions. if they can find a similar way to talk to the people in teacher's unions and other municipal unions th

tonight -- >> reporter: the deaths two of officers have highlighted mounting tensions between police union officials and the mayor whom they accuse of putting officers live's at risk with his support of recent protests involving the eric garner choke hold death and the police shooting of mooi cap brown. -- michael brown. >> those that incited violence under the guides of protest that tried to tear down what new york city police officers did every day. we tried to warn, it must not go on. it cannot be tolerated. that blood on the hands starts on the steps of city hall in the office of the mayor. >> reporter: and in an apparent show of defiance, police officers gathering at the hospital where the slain officers were taken, turned their backs on the mayor as he entered for saturday's press conference. >> alexander field, she's joining us now, and, push this forward for us, if you will, i mean this has been an awful, awful weekend. and we have seen weeks where a lot of tension between the community, between the police department, now this riff between the mayor and the police department, are p

. >> here's how police union president pat lynch responded to those remarks in particular. >> what police officers felt yesterday after that press conference is that they were thrown under the bus. that they were out there doing a difficult job in the middle of the night protection the rights of those to protest, protecting our sons and daughters, and the mayor was behind microphones like this throwing them under the bus. >> mr. lynch also wrote an op-ed in the "new york post" blasting the mayor for other remarks he's made. and for the record the mayor has praise the the police for their response to protests. i spoke to pat lynch in an exclusive interview. >> i want to ask you about your comment. you said the mayor has thrown police officers under the bus. how has he done that? >> what you had was the mayor right after the grand jury made their decision put onto the backs of new york city police officers decades of racism. and that's just not true. i have 31 years in the new york city police department and have never heard once on a radio call when a call came over, what race are they, wh