prize and another politzer prize for his book "ghost wars" the magnificent history of 9/11 and shoulde won another politzer prize for "private empire" in 2012 but got robbed and now he's written "directorate s." steve, honor to have you here. >> thanks for having me back. >> congratulations. >> thank you. >> first of all, did you know when you started writing "goes w -- "ghost wars" you would write more? >> absolutely not. took me awhile to decide there was a second part worth doing because the world was in such chaos after september 11th, the war in iraq and the rest, i wasn't sure how to create a second volume. ten years later i dragged one across the finish line. i'm glad about that. >> this is a reporting master work and i am a humble, huge fan of yours and everything you've worked on particularly at book length. what i find remarkable about this story is i feel like you do actually answer the question of why it's 17 years in afghanistan and nobody knows why we're there. essentially your answer is it's pakistan is the reason we're still there and that is something nobody has come

. ♪ >> >>> in a new piece out today, politzer prize winner pointing out a stark truth about the man occupying oval office. quote, one year after trump took office it is still unclear whether the president of the united states is an agent of foreign power. real pleasure to have you here. you have been covering intelligence for literally decades. you've co-written a book with someone who worked at the cia specifically about the kgb. taking that because you write about this in the piece, just start there with your knowledge how the kgb and successor agencies operated and how that looks, the indictment today and what we know about russian interference with that history in context. >> sure. i think this -- the russian interference in the 2016 election fits perfectly into the past history of the way the kgb has operated over the years. they are experts at covert action programs that are designed to inject disinformation into foreign countries, and one of the cold war cases that i talk about in the piece is called operation infection in the early 1980s where the kgb went to great lengths through cut