against the walls are what must have been $50 million, $60 million worth of mark rothkos, jackson pollocks, abstract expressionist masterpieces. >> reporter: that artwork was one reason that kirn never doubted rockefeller until years later, when the whole world would learn that the art was expertly forged. >> you wouldn't guess that the man is fake, the art is fake, the name is fake-- everything, you know. >> reporter: shortly after the art appeared, sandra boss married her rockefeller. >> who supported your family financially after you got married? >> i did. >> who controlled the finances? >> the defendant. >> reporter: kirn met the couple in 1998 when the marriage was already in trouble. >> i remember sitting there thinking, "this is a sad marriage. they don't love each other." it didn't seem like a happy place. >> reporter: but they stayed together and even had a daughter. in 2001, reigh storrow rockefeller was born. but five years later, sandra boss filed for divorce, and when things got contentious, her husband's con finally unraveled. >> i found out in august of 2007 that he was not

pollock, you've been working on the health care issue for decades. is the aca anything like you envisioned back in the day when you were working on hillary care, etc.? guest: the key aspects of this legislation is that it is going to give an opportunity for tens of millions of people to get protections and benefits they have never had before. the thing most people are worried about is they're worried about if they can afford health care. this legislation provides for significant subsidies for people so that they can afford premiums and it provides important protections because as you know, insurance companies tend to deny coverage to those people who have health problems, pre- existing conditions or they charge higher premiums for those people based on their health status. the judge women a higher premium. these kinds of things are a thing of the past and the affordable care act is going to protect people against those problems. host: again, how are late it is it to what youis have been working on? is this what you wanted? guest: yes. we have today 4

i had been prepared by a couple people who was going do this and they said "i saw him and sydney pollockme input but in a way, you know, i think the story -- it seemed like bob was just ready, really, to be a pure actor. so the challenge for me is you're making a 90 or00 minute film where a guy never speaks rarely and how are you going-to-do that from the story perspective. so the confidence i've always in my whole career gone back to this is the script. in this case i doubled down and i said if robert redford has shown up on my set to do this with me based on these 31 pages let's make a movie that is these 31 pages and stick to that. in a way his confidence in me and the trust he was putting in with me, it's a little outlandish. >> rose: go ahead. >> no, you go ahead. >> rose: (laughs) well it gave you a chance to define a character and bark story and all that stuff. here is handing you and opportunity and saying "here's why i want you to help bring this character? and you're not hemmed in by dialogue. you don't have to be true to dialogue to make that much of it. >> all that was positi

. >> yes, joan than pollock of the brookings institution. ambassador, good to see you in the neighborhood again. i thought i would try to raise an issue, and i hope it doesn't sound overly academic but about the structure of international relations. china continues to resist any suggestion there is a g2. on the other hand as you nighted we're in kind after hybrid world where we have on the one hand the traditional institutions of the post-world war ii era and newer institutions we now grapple with. left unstated though is that china has emphasized the desire for a new, a new framework or a new concept of major power relations. what i'm curious about whether or not the assumption of this framework applies only to the united states and china or is it something that we could generalize beyond these two states? and if so, if i could ask you, would you care to offer us an estimate of who are the great powers? who is entitled to a particular responsibility? just a question. so you can be a student again. [laughter] >> thank you very much for givin

pollock, what about the delays on the rupture site and some of the issues that is facing how concerned are you? everyone is concerned about that, not least of all the president and secretary of health and human services, and kathleen sebelius. it is a problem. there's no question it is a problem, you think we need to put it into perspective. days in this first enrollment. we have now gone through about 1/8 of those days. hopefully this is going to get fixed. we have a lot of time to get this fixed and to enable people to get enrolled. one of the perspectives i urge people to think about is that when you have a new program, you often experience these kinds of problems. in clearest example is that 2005 and 2006 there was a new program to enable people on medicare to get prescription drug coverage. there were wonderful public servants who were involved in the implementation of this. mike lovett was a secretary of health and human services, mark mcclellan ran the medicare and medicaid program, a terrific public servants. despite all her good and hard work, there were enormous problems with