this one from my facebook friend fred polson from fredricksburg, virginia. you can see the snow coating the roads there as you try to drive through it and from hagerstown, maryland hagerstown got it later in the morning and still coming down there and also towards martinsburg. here's some of the tallies that we have. these are still preliminary numbers. official talley later on today. 1.7 inches, highest number that i could find in calloway maryland. culpepper got over an inch. vienna .3 of an inch. .2 of an inch reported at reagan national. nice coating downtown and dulles airport reporting a trace. 31 degrees at the current temperature. we have the overcast conditions in d.c. our wind chill factor is down to 23 so everything stays frozen and icy if not cleared or treated. it's 25 in gaithersburg. 27 inincheste this has been one of the problems that we've had to deal with today. temperatures, they're down in the 20's and that salt in the chemical treatments on the roadways is ineffective. so take it with a grain of salt so to speak on the doppler radar here

jim polson will give us his perspective. laureate joseph stiglitz was poised to handle advising the securities and exchange to mission on issues facing u.s. equities markets but that nomination has reportedly been blocked. i will ask him about that when he joins me next hour. you then. back to you in san francisco. >> he was also a big spook goalie fan -- spiccoli fan. >> i did not know that. >> i made that up. ok, when we come back --the self driving car race. that is next on "bloomberg west ." ♪ >> on cory johnson. this is "bloomberg west." there are more automakers than ever before the consumer electronic show, proving their cars are more connected than ever. now they are developing new kinds of vehicles that you do not have to drive. one of the brands making a splash at the conference -- brad stone is standing by with more. brad? >> hi cory. i am here with the ceo of daimler. dr. z, what is this? is this a glance of the future or technology to come? >> it is totally realistic. it is fully autonomous. it gives you space a

i am joined by gene -- jim polson. welcome back. happy new year. >> not the started 2015. when will oil hit bottom? >> i would have thought $15 or $20 ago. i think it has gone the work than anyone really thought. dropping below $15 per barrel has proved. in the short-term it appears fairly clear we will have to bottom the oil markets and take the bottom dollar. they will probably take together before you can get the stock market put in the bottom. i am fairly optimistic that we're fairly close to that. if nothing else, the magnitude of the daily declined, alstom -- almost back-to-back declines suggest this is getting toward the tail end. i think in the short run i would look at a bottom and maybe popular balance over this week and maybe the payroll numbers will help to do that by friday. >> if the major indicators show growth no inflationary pressure on the horizon and the fed does keep interest rates low how does oil throw a wrench into the mix? >> i am with you on that. longer-term, we go into the year worried about the deflationary spiral into the globe. i think by the

. >> and black hat hackers, like kevin polson who is editor at "wired" magazine. >> he went to prisono prison for five years and came out and wrote "kingpin." they come up with great names for themselves. about what motivates you, what is the high, what is the experience. >> to understand the personality and the character of the hacker. why do they do it, what is the charge for them? is it about money fame? >> 15-year-old kid adept at it, he has a firewall that says you cannot come in here, you want to bet? >> did you figure out whether we can keep up with them or are they always going to be able to get in? >> they are always going to get in. if they cap today, somebody will discover a vulnerability on thursday. it is a constant evolution because it is ubiquitous. anybody with a fast enough laptop and skill set can go exploring and find a way in or groups of people can find a way in. the more sophisticated hacks like sony had to be done by state authors with teams of coders for a period of time. the game, who is this character, where is he from -- it's becace -- it became who is this

people who had been blackhat hack ares like kevin polson who is now an editor add wired magazine.another guy named-- . >> rose: went to prison. >> went to prison for five years and then came out and wrote kingpin about a hacker named max vision. >> rose: right. >> and they had come up with great names for themselves. and you know about what motivates you. what is the high, what is the experience why are you so-- . >> rose: the personality and the character. >> understand it is-- . >> rose: for somebody who is a hacker. >> right. >> rose: why did they do it what is the charge for them. >> exactly. >> rose: is it about money fame the challenge of doing it. >> a 15-year-old kid, adept at it. there is a firewall. something says you can't come in here, want a bet. particularly for the american. >> rose: and did you filling out whether we can keep up with them, are they always going to be able to get in? >> they are always going get if if they can't get in today somebody will discover vulnerability on thursday, is the sense of it. so it is a constant evolution. because it is ubiquitous.

that is exciting news because as many republicans have noted republicans like secretary scholz and polsonrepublicans like ronald reagan and art laffer there are smart conservative ways to address this problem. and i continue to think that the idea that the senator signed off on this all those years ago talks about raising the fee by putting a price on carbon that reflects the economic facts that it creates harm for so many other folks. the externalities with this, the costs, the people that live near the sea all of those costs in the place of the product, that is economics 101, then taking every dollar that you raise as lower working people taxes. i am completely comfortable with that notion and that is one that has been over and over again brought up in the context of republicans and conservatives discussion including a good recent paper jointly offered from the american enterprise institute. and so i had the pleasure of the deputy minority leader on the floor, traveling with him and with the ranking member on the judiciary committee and other colleagues as well. so when we spend time wi