fighting for the past, but ukraine is for the future, so british journalists think writer peter pomerantsev, together with our colleague angelina koryakina, they talked about how the kremlin is planting old soviet narratives in the occupied territories, in particular, an exclusive interview, see more greetings today we are talking to british journalist and writer, as well as researcher peter pomerantsev and peter greetings thank you for visiting i will start with the question about may 9, in fact, on this day, many of us are thinking about the meaning of this day and the meanings with which russia filled it with its actions, what russia did or this does not mean that she herself contributed to the decommunization of this soviet holiday, well , the great one for the former, for the former soviet countries once a-a with her actions. a very strange role in such psychological propaganda of the kremlin, uh, russia is a very sick country, yes, a country where, in principle, no one talks about everything, internal trauma, absenteeism, lagoons, museums, now the memorial has been closed, and they do

like this, it wouldn’t be like this if this freebie ended heavenly now we will live like this and pomerantsevhould be directed to changing the behavior of the enemy, well, what concrete actions could there be, do you support this opinion, what could be such concrete actions, on which we should direct our energy, he knows well the history of the propaganda of world war ii, british, american, he knows, he knows the worst one must be said , but with the british, you are very good at dealing with it, and i would say from the point of view that any influence on behavior should be pursued because we very often in ukraine describe the process itself as a result, so we want to talk to someone he and i are being listened to and this is already our victory, absolutely no, if behavior changes, if the economic situation changes from yesterday , the military situation, then this is influence on the state for this, well, actually, the state exists for this, which also influences the behavior of other people, diplomacy, war and other things and such, well, social communication, i absolutely do not believe i

about it with the famous researcher of russian propaganda, the british journalist and writer peter pomerantsevi will explain to our viewers that you speak russian. because you lived in moscow for a long time, you even worked there on television, so you not only learned the language the methods of work there are also theirs well, let's put it this way, the media, although we understand that it failed, my first question to you is why the absurd propaganda that tells about nazis in ukraine about biolaboratories about combatants of birds turns out to be so effective and people believe in this absurdity. well, you know everything we know about the history of propaganda, that it works from two sides, of course, the information is supplied where the information is narrative, well, they must always have a resonance with people, yes, they must be superimposed on their psychological vision of the world on their historical vision of the world and so on a-a mmm if in an inter-nazi well this is a very old such a-a story that spreads there i don’t know eh in soviet cinema and so on what that a- and in ukrai

fighting for the past ukraine is for the future , according to british journalists, writer peter pomerantseve angelina koryakin, they talked about how crimea is planting old soviet narratives on the oka

it is known that the restructuring of the chambers was started by the architect pomerantsev and completedial stoves were also assembled according to sultanov’s drawings. specialists managed to find in his archives all plans for the restructuring of buildings, starting from the 18th century. and here is the important opening of the palace, which we used to see red was a completely different color. you know what e originally color scheme of this object was a completely different person. well, we are happy. it was clearly not a red and turquoise analogue of this. the decision served, the hanged palace in the moscow kremlin was waiting for the surprises of the restorers, and in the interiors of the walls of the famous throne room under the yusupovs, as it turned out, they were beaten off with velvet at one time. hung here. uh, a portrait of peter i, as far as i understand, it is here in this place. we found this little piece of genuine wall upholstery, the same velvet the portrait of peter i itself, as well as three more large paintings , have already been taken to arkhangelsk for restoration

i speak to russian propaganda expert peter pomerantsev about kremlin strategy and how best to

and this anatoly pomerantsev understudy could also order it, well, also a classic to take the place of during the divorce. this is my version of the former, capable of anything, even throwing a cat. i'm telling you, you need to shake the understudy, which means a star. and i take over, take it, take it and get out. i just promised to help him suggest a couple of tricks. as in the movie i shot nothing, i did n’t get home, but i didn’t guess. you chef calling on the carpet? go go now everything will somehow insert, so as not to be rude to the star. come on, come on. i took, well, what do you not like? you don't like everything, yes, it overacts a little. but in general, this forms the right image of a good policeman, a fellow actor expressed a desire to be presented with enhanced security. he doesn't want you to guard him, but i can't. obviously, it’s better to investigate the wife, i’ll interrogate, in the end, so the order is the order, we generally do what you are told, otherwise neither you nor your dog are close here will not be. write at night, go go go, and i'll go talk to his ex.