please give a warm eye welcome to secretary mike pompeo -- a warm iowa welcome to secretary pompeo. mr. pompeo: thank you. there was a great introduction. thank you. [applause] thank you all. thank you, everybody. thank you all. it is great to see you all, it is great to be back in big rooms together, lots of energy. i'm excited about that. it is also great because i an am unemployed former diplomat, so thanks for having me here today. [laughter] craig, thanks for that very kind introduction. i had this incredible privilege these past four years and it means so much to me to be back with you at this annual summit. to make it a habit. i love coming back to this place, to you as a group, and i, of course, love being back in my neck of the woods, the midwest. you know, flyover country. my wife, susan, was born in iowa city. although she was raised in wichita, she spent her summers at coralville and strawberry point. that's why i am back. i watched the northern iowa panthers destroy wichita state, many times. it was emotionally very difficult for me. [laughter] look, it's been almost si

please give a warm welcome to secretary mike pompeo. [applause] mr. pompeo: thank you. that was a great introduction. yankee. -- thank you. thank you all. it's great to see you all, it's great to be back in big rooms together. lots of energy and i'm excited. it's also great because i'm an unemployed former diplomat, so thank you for having me here today. thanks for that kind introduction. i have had this incredible privilege these last four years and it means so much to me to be back with you at this annual summit. i love coming back to this place, to you as a group, and i love being back in my neck of the woods, in the midwest, you know, flyover country. my wife, susan, was born in iowa city, though she was raised in wichita. she spent her summers at coral hill and strawberry point. that's why i'm back, i don't know why some of the other folks are back. i can't figure it out. i also watch the iowa panthers destroyed wichita state too many times. it was emotionally very difficult for me. it has been almost six months now since the administration left office. i will be h

but if you hit pipe, pompeo wants to see it.m as a pipe hitter by writing or sending a video to mike, with a handy place to record your pipe hitting in action. now, clearly, it is our duty to support this mission. everyone out there, please, send mike pompeo a video of you hitting pipe-- whatever that means to you. ( cheers and applause ) speaking of which, there's a controversy involving friend of the show, cnn anchor and confused pork chop, chris cuomo. cuomo recently retweeted some viewers who had praised his work on air, which inspired a twitter critic to post, "you're gonna break your arm, let's say, to put it in cnn terms, going 360 on your own situation room." ( laughter ) now, obviously, that's a very rude implication and, obviously, the smart thing to do is just ignore the trolls. so cuomo retweeted the accusation of self-pleasuring with this photo of his bicep and the caption, "that how this happened?! hahahaha." oh, my god, chris! i know you're proud of your body, even though i beat you in a pushup contest. but i'm no

reporter 3: pompeo cited cuba's harboring of u.s. fugitives and its support for venezuelan leader nicolas maduro as reasons for the move. critics said the decision was nothing more than an eleventh hour move to complicate matters for incoming president joe biden. reporter 4: there's only a small windowf time to come up with policy before politics get h d heavy in the next congressional elections. narrator: for more perspectives on the complex relationship between cuba and the united states, as well as other global challenges, visit theglobalmosaic.com. announcer: funding for this program was provided by the minerva nolte estate. - in this dark time powerful interests are stoking the shadows of the human psyche and our lizard brain tribal instincts for scapegoating and othering. facing this polarization and violence. john a. powell shines a beam of light on how we can move from othering to belonging to build bridges instead of walls, few endeavors are more important and few voices, more eloquent. john's background is too deep and wide

pompeo for the record or someone close to pompeo denies his saying that. but when you look at everything in this book, these are very direct quotes. carol and phil are two excellent reporters. >> and assuming -- i mean if one assumes and i don't know this for a fact, but based on if milly did talk to them for this book or talked to other people who talked to them, he was the other guy at the table -- pompeo clearly has visions of himself running for president or having a political career and wants to continue sucking up to the former president. >> he wants the trump base. he's planning to run for president by all accounts, and he does not want to -- >> directly calling them all crazies probably not a good idea. >> he believes in civilian authority. he did not want to be doing this planning. so he was walking a very fine line so that it wouldn't appear the generals or senior officials were planning something. he was trying to keep the guardrails up to january 20th. >> and we just know what happens next, which is the trump world now goes after milly, which r

and i know mike pompeo. i served in congress with mike pompeo.ead that tweet and i almost cried. and it made me think again and realize again, brianna, that this is donald trump's party. donald trump controls the republican party. and any republican who wants to be viable and mike pompeo wants to run for president, any republican that wants to be viable has to be as dishonest as trump, has to be as stupid as trump, has to be as mean and ignorant as trump. mike pompeo, brianna, knows that every word he said in that tweet is wrong. historically it's wrong. pompeo is a smart guy, but he puts out an ignorant tweet like that purely to embrace trump and appeal to republican party base voters. it's so sad. >> it's just historically inaccurate, right? for a guy who went to west point and harvard, he should know the constitution talks about forming a more perfect union. in other words, we can be better. what are constitutional amendments if not admissions that things can be better, that there's something wrong or, yes, mike pompeo, even flawed that needs

pompeo, for the record, someone close to pompeo denies his saying that. but when you look at everything in this book, these are very -- um -- direct quotes. carol and phil are two excellent reporters. >> and assuming -- i mean, if one assumes and i don't know this for a fact but based on, you know, if milley did talk to them for this book or talk to other people who talked to them. it -- you know, he was the other guy at the table. pompeo, clearly, you know, has visions of himself running for president. or having a political career and wants to continue sucking up to the former president. >> he is not -- he wants the trump base. he is planning to run for president, by all accounts. and he does not want to -- >> doesn't want to be on record calling them all crazy. >> correct. >> yeah, probably a good idea. >> one point that dana raised about the constitution and something someone -- people should understand about general milley. he believes in civilian authority. he did not want to be doing this planning. so, he was walking a very fine line, so that it wou

boudin critics claiming president biden deal to complete the nord stream to pipeline here why mike pompeons our national security is still at risk. let's take a look back at the newsmakers on "mornings with maria" in this edition of the week's talkers ♪ ♪. maria: what can we expect next in the space race, what is your reaction to jeff bezos. >> i'm not sure what's next i would guess he's going to try to continue to do woody's doing, make sure he does it safely and try to expand and figure out how to get his vehicle to low earth orbit. maria: way and on what you heard of gain-of-function research, was it taken place in the wuhan lab of virology. >> of course dr. fauci funded gain-of-function research, he can deny all the wants and his staff which is clearly gain-of-function research as it enough function research but it was. maria: there tried to take anybody associated with trump down, you said prosecutors are weapon rising the law for political purposes. >> watching what the prosecutors are doing and as it unfolds it's very disconcerting as americans and every american should be worried

you mention pompeo, pompeo left others with the impression he thought trump might want to lean into anernational conflict to strengthen his argue for remaining in office. these were pretty shocking revelations that i thought well beyond the day-to-day chaos we were used do on the outside. >> i want to accident in question with you for a minute because you talk about secretary of state mike pompeo and i remember after the election was called and people were wondering what was going to happen because trump had not conceded. mike pompeo said we are prepared to continue the next four years. what did you uncover about his unwilling ens even though he thought trump was crazy, he on the stage, was not saying that. >> not only pompeo organized daily call with general milley who you mentioned and the chief of staff in order to keep a check on temperatures and try to make sure international situations were -- that tensions were low. i think what happened here is that i talked to a lot of people around trump who viewed themselves as truth tellers to the president. they thought they were the guard

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milley, meadows, pompeo in the book. and it is very interesting that milley sees these conversations as also a way to keep tabs on trump. to see what is going on. to hear from meadows what is happening at the white house. there is also a scene described in the book between general milley and then secretary of state mike pompeo. both men lived on fort myers and they are houses were very close and they would get together at each other's house and one day they get together and have what is described as a heart to heart conversation at the kitchen table and then secretary of state mike pompeo is quoted as saying that the crazies are taking over. now we should say that in the book, someone close to pompeo denies that he ever said that and says it doesn't reflect his feelings. but it is clear there were two people in that conversation and one of them was general milley. so that was, i would guess, his take of the conversation. >> it is a great reporting as always. thank you, so much, jamie, really appreciate it. >>> joining me

pompeo telling milley, quote, crazies are taking over.t is an account that pompeo now denies. >> this book describes tense moments that played out during january 6th and in its aftermath, including liz cheney telling jim jordan during the capitol riot, quote, you f'ing did this and house speaker pelosi's fears that trump would use a nuclear weapon during his final days in office. the book describes a private conversation that she had with general milley and he reassured pelosi that the military would not carry out an order that was illegal. >> and finally, the book talks about trump's disdain for angela merkel during an oval office meeting about nato and germany. trump refers to the german chancellor as, quote, that bitch merkel. >> joining us now jaymie again gal. you got the excerpts of this book. and the perhaps most alarming part of this is general milley worried that donald trump could attempt a coup and how we learn about what was going on behind the scenes to make sure that didn't happen. >> absolutely. what we learn is that after

quote, the crazies have taken over secretary of state mike pompeo warned a colleague.e conveyed concern to others that mr. trump might be more willing to engage in an international conflict to strengthen his political argument for remaining in office. >> secretary of state mike pompeo becomes very concerned about the national security of the country, the domestic unrest and what that could mean internationally. privately he sets up a call with daily call with the chief of staff and mark milley, the nation's top general in order to try to keep temperatures down. publicly what does he say? he says that there's going to be a smooth transition to a second trump turn. >> reporter: cnn reached out to a representative of pompeo's for a response. he did not comment for the record. another new book, "i alone can fix it: donald jump . trump's f catastrophic year" depicts trump lawyer rudy giuliani on election night pushing trump to forget that fox news had called arizona for joe biden. quote, just go declare victory right now, giuliani told trump. you've got to go declare victor

mike pence, mike pompeo, nikki haley, ted cruz. of those names, john, who would you say is in the best position to become the next gop presidential nominee if it's not going to be trump? >> well, interestingly in the straw poll in february at cpac, desantis came in second. and he has managed to -- we have a piece on this on wsj.com right now -- he's managed to do things that president trump had a harder time doing which is to appeal to some moderate republicans in his own state. so the republicans are looking to him and saying, well, maybe this is the model that we want to use in the next election. after all, we came into the 2016 election controlling the, you know, after 2016 we controlled the white house and both us houses of congress, and when the president left, we were left with none of those things. so we need to have a candidate who appeals to the middle ground as well. but that's the big issue at cpac -- arthel: it is. >> is the president going to crowd out the next generation of republican leadership. that's, that's going

joining me now, former secretary of state, fox news contributor, mike pompeo.tary pompeo, the reaction from the media and the democrats, the left, has been, i think, quite revealing to people who forgotten that they were doing the same kind of thing with the soviet union back in that '80s when i was in college. >> yes, thanks for having me on the show. it is absolutely the case where they pointed the finger. pointed the finger at the american spirit the truth is this is about communism. this is about socialism. this is about people demanding freedom. lives of the family won't be better next generation for they know that their country was designated by a state sponsor of terror for they know that things aren't good. the conditions of the evil leadership in the communist dictates have swilled their lives and they want freedom. we seem to be advice and american flags. these are people understand. if using anybody down in florida who left cuba, those exiles that are now living in america, they know freedom, they know the route of it, they know the benefits of it, t

one of those people wias the secretary of state mike pompeo. bender writes that the crazies have taken over. he warned a colleague, he conveyed the concern to others that mr. trump might be more willing engage in an international conflict to strengthen his political argument for remaining in office. a couple of days after this election was called for joe biden, here is also mike pompeo publicly. >> the what point does it delay a smooth transition or pose a risk to national security? >> there will be a smooth transition to a second trump administration. >> what are the consequences for these folks? >> clearly he's trying to convince himself it seems like more than other people. when i'm reading these excerpts, my number one takeaway is where were these people right after january 6th? clearly there was a secondary impeachment and a moment there where the party almost froze for like a week, maybe even less. where people were genuinely republicans trying to figure out what do we do? do we turn our back on him, and do we stick with him and how bad i

this is from mike pompeo, former secretary of state.have taken over, secretary of state mike pompeo warned a colleague. he conveyed concern to others that mr. trump might be more willing to engage in an international conflict to strengthen his political argument for remaining in office. >>> joining us now michael bender, who is also the senior white house reporter for the washington journal. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> i started with the pompeo book. from a 30,000 foot view, i think this is the thrust of what your book gets into, which is that so many people inside the white house and in trump world felt that the president was dangerous. >> yeah. >> felt that he was dangerous, yet didn't take it public. >> that's right. i think we are all pretty familiar with the story of the chaos of trump's four years, whether it's the administration or the president himself. what this book lays out pretty me tho methodically and for the first time how dangerous people cl closeest to trump thought he was dangerous for the country. you b

pompeo, pence, et cetera. make of the reporting here, josh. >> mike obviously has a lot of incredible scoops and pieces of reporting in his book. you look at a lot of his reporting that goes back all the way through the campaign and earlier and, you know, some of it i've confirmed since he reported. some of it is things that have been reported in the past like he added more and more details too but comments about mike pompeo at the end, i have not reported that independently but that certainly was a cinema that was coursing throughout the administration, in the final days he was getting rid of people viewed as more establishment figures who, you know, were trying to keep the train on the tracks and looking towards others, the cia, at the state department, at d.o.d., he was installing all sorts of loyalists and there was great concern among some trump officials, so i don't know the exact thoughts of mike pompeo but do know that sentiment was shared by many others in the administration. the pence part of that bo

all of these figures, barr, pompeo, ratcliffe, they were enablers.cedented assault on our democracy. i don't know that any reputation laundering washes that stain off. nick and pete are sticking around because when we return president biden is today warning vladimir putin that he will take whatever steps are needed to defend the united states against cyberattacks by russian hackers. that story is next. ♪ it's grilled cheese time. ♪ ♪ yeah, it's time for grilled cheese. ♪ ♪ after we make grilled cheese, ♪ ♪ then we're eating grilled cheese. ♪ ♪ because it's time. ♪ ♪ yeah. ♪ ♪ time for grilled cheese. ♪ verizon launched the first 5g network, and now we want to be the first to give everyone the joy of 5g. with a new 5g phone on us. old customers. new customers. just trade in your old one. cracked, busted, sticky buttons. we're calling it the biggest upgrade ever. because it is. flowers are fighters. that's why the alzheimer's association walk to end alzheimer's is full of them. because flowers find a way to break through. just like we will. join the fi

quote, the crazies have taken over mike pompeo warned a colleague, that mr.ling to engage in an international conflict to strengthen his political argument for remaining in office. >> mike pompeo becomes very concerned about the national security of the country, domestic unrest and what it could mean internationally. privately he sets up a call with -- daily call with the chief of staff and mark milley the nation's top general in order to try to keep temperatures down. publicly what does he say? he says that there is going to be a smooth transition to a second trump term. >> reporter: cnn reached out to a representative of pompeo's for a response. he did not comment for the record. another new book, i alone can fix it, donald trump's catastrophic final year, by "washington post" reporters t depicts rudy giuliani pushing trump to forget that fox news called arizona for job. just go declare victory right now, giuliani told trump, you have to declare victory now. giuliani's interjection of his just say you won strategy infuriated trump campaign advisers. >> thes

have taken over, secretary of state pompeo said that mr.n an international conflict to strength ten political argument for remaining in office. any indication of how close the country was to getting into some military conflict? >> i think that the krn frconce from the top diplomat is embem m emblem natick that i was getting fairly close there. plenty of trump books for decades. but what this one does that no one else has is look at trumpism in three ways. you go behind the scenes in the oval office, behind the curtains at the campaign and embedded with trump supporters for two years on the road. and one of the takeaways, mike pompeo for example being a good one here, is this is not a book about the trump chaos. we know the story of trump chaos. this shows how dangerous and reckless that some of the people closest to trump thought he was for the country and how close to the brink we really did come. a very dangerous situation. this one, there is another situation in there are trump tells mark milley oigand others mark evsper, that he wants t

>> well, one of the things that we did, tammy, under mike pompeo at the state department is we startednese communist party. and the scientific parts of our government should have been doing that as well knowing their behavior. so we looked at things like university campuses. right? people that are doing business in gin jong. no one was talking about forced labor. jamie just talked about the genocide. no one was pressuring american companies not to do business there until we really took that on at the state department. >> tammy: great point. >> in every place where there is a u.n. election mike pompeo said to the team we are going to map out every place where the chinese are trying to take control of these international organization was and we're going to compete to win. unfortunately, the scientific community, that part of the united states government, should have been doing what mike pompeo's state department was doing. >> tammy: i will tell you, we have at least a good perspective now about what we must do and the american people are getting educated and clearly things have got to ch

the book also claims milley and former secretary of state mike pompeo privately met, pompeo telling milleyt the, quote, crazies are taking over, which is an account that pompeo denies. >> the book also describes tense moments that played out during the january 6th capitol attack and in the aftermath, including liz cheney telling jim jordan during the riot, quote, you f-ing did this, and house speaker nancy pelosi, her fear is that trump would use nuclear weapons during his final days in office. the book describes a private conversation she had with general milley and he reassured pelosi the military would not carry out an order that they believed was illegal. >> and then finally, the book talks about trump's disdain for german chancellor angela ammerk. trump refers to the german chancellor as that bench merkel. >> cnn dana bash and carl bernstein. >>> dana, the joint chiefs are nervous about a coup they're plotting about how to take evasive action. put this in a big picture for us. how significant? >> really, i can't think of anything much more significant than what you just described and

the book claims that the general and mike pompeo met privately and pompeo told him that the crazies areaking over which is an account that pompeo denies. >> it describes tense moments that played out during january 6th and the aftermath including liz cheney telling jim jordan during the capitol riot, quote, you fing did this and house speaker nancy pelosi fears he would use a weapon during his final days in office. a private conversation she had with general milly and the military would not carry out an order that was illegal. >> finally, the book talks about trump's disdain for german chancellor angela merkel during an oval office meeting about nato and germany, where according to the book, trump refers to the german chancellor as that bitch merkel. >> i want to bring in barbara starr and maggie haberman. one more specific excerpt i want to read you because this really does tell the story about what was going on in milly's head. the chairman of the joint chief genuinely worried about the possibility of a coup. he says they may try but they're not going to f-ing succeed, he told them. y

mike pompeo warned a colleague. that's not how pompeo talks about trump in public.s damaging to him if he tries to run in 20 24. embracing trump and not only trump but the lie the election was stolen is going to be a litmus test in 2024 for whoever is running. it's going ton interesting to see how he walks that line knowing what he said privately versus what he said publicly. >> trump today issued a statement criticizing michael bender. that means everything he wrote is true. that's my translation. one of the interesting things is the former president is no longer on twitter. when he was president, that was how he communicated with us every day. michael interviewed him about this. i want to get to this part. shockingly he said he was glad to be off twitter. his prewritten statements were more elegant. it's better than twitter, mr. trump told me. i didn't realize you can spend a lot of time on this. now i actually have time to make phone calls and to do other things and read papers that i wouldn't read. think about that in the context of when he was president. so now

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secretary bomb pay he yow, it's always -- pompeo, it's always a pleasure. you, sir. >> thank you, maria. have a good day. maria: and to you. we will take a break and a comeh back and look at the crime wave sweeping the country. congressman lee zeldin is here, he's running for governor of new york. we'll find out his platform and get his thoughts on the movement to defund the police, open borders and put prisoners back on the street. stay with us. we have breaking numbers coming up this morning on a june border apprehension you'll only see here. back inwa a minute the journey is why they ride. when the road is all you need, there is no destination. uh, i-i'm actually just going to get an iced coffee. well, she may have a destination this one time, but usually -- no, i-i usually have a destination. yeah, but most of the time, her destination is freedom. nope, just the coffee shop. announcer: no matter why you ride, progressive has you covered with protection starting at $79 a year. voiceover: 'cause she's a biker... please don't follow me in. - i'm norm. - i'

mike pompeo, mr.iate it. >> great to be with you, thanks for having me on russia. dan: it's an honor. as someone who is head of the cia and has been in congress and secretary of state, nobody has seen this from your view. russians have figured out asymmetric warfare is cheap. all they have to do is get ransomware and look what they can do, billions of dollars in damage to our economy, do you think we should start developing capabilities for maybe striking back capacity to send a message to them? this will never and, they can bankrupt us doing this. >> remember this, it works both ways. not difficult for us to respond in the same way, it doesn't require mass mobilization of troops this is where we need to be prepared. i listened to president biden speak and i'm confident vladimir putin sees weakness. you can't touch leaving thousands of things potentially can, he sees these things as i can move in this direction continue to accelerate my ransomware said not his program but he knows everything these fol

former secretary of state, fox news contributor mike pompeo, the reaction from the media, democrats, left has been i think quite feeling to people who have forgotten they were doing the same kind of thing with the soviet union back in the 80s when i was in college. >> thanks for having me on the show, absolutely the case, they pointed the finger at covid, the cubans pointed the finger at the americans, the truth is this is about communism, this is about socialism, this is about people demanding freedom, lots of their families won't be better next generation, their family was designated by me as a state sponsor of terror, they know that things aren't good, the conditions of the evil leadership and dictates of that leadership spoiled their lives and they want freedom, the cuban flags and american flags, people who understand if you have seen anybody in florida who left cuba, now living in america, they know freedom, the reality of it, the benefits of it and why it matters to their soul and their pocketbook, this isn't about the coronavirus, not about an american flag, this is not the c

pushing back on china's influence, former secretary of state mike pompeo will join me on his takes on attacks and growing calls against taiwan's existing as independent country, don't miss a moment of it. mornings with maria live on fox business. ♪ ♪ ♪ maria: senate democrats are pushing with key procedural vote in massive infrastructure bill despite not finishing writing of the bill. republican leadership says they will not sign off until they see what is in the bill and how they plan to pay for it in order the move the bill forward. democrats will need support of at least ten republicans to reach the key 60 vote threshold. joining me right now florida congressman and member of small business committees, byron donald, it's always a pleasure, thanks very much for being here this morning. what do you see happening this morning with the procedural vote, will the democrats get the republican support that they need to move this forward? >> i mean, i hope not. what is this, a redo of obamacare where they don't know what was happening? they negotiated a trillion dollars while 3.5 and trying

jacqui: i want to play for you what former secretary of state mike pompeo said and get your reaction.we take this seriously, the bad cries, north koreaens or russians attacked us, we had begun to establish a model for deterrence. and don'tware that president biden is going to live up to the promises he made in geneva. jacqui: do you agree with that? and as part of your answer why also this level of attack is being considered, really, very sophisticated? >> yeah, i try and stay out of the politics, i'm a one and zero guy not r and d. you have to look at it and say is there an increase in the severity of the attacks? all the frame works and policies aren't working. what it boils down 0 to, there are ways to deter it. find a way to demon advertise their ability to make money off this and start sanctions and one thing you can do to get russia or china's attention, we don't have to go after critical infrastructure, but go after vital military and targets, the bush doctrine if you're complicit and allow people to operate in your country you're part of the problem not the solution. a we'll d

>> when it comes to the people who are closest around trump that mark milley and mike pompeo and thee types of folks were not concerned about the chaos story that we had been talking about for years. like john, what came out in my reporting for the book was that they thought trump was a danger to the country that he became reckless and desperate. he said in a room full of people that he wanted to shoot americans protesting civil rights injustices. mike pompeo left others with the impression that he thought trump wanted to lean into a war or may lean into a war in order to strengthen his argument to not leave office. these are the kinds of details that throughout the book illustrates that point. >> why he was so late to stealing the election. he had a lot of desire to steal the election which is unconstitutional obviously and whether if he was charged for it or not. but, he was late to that. do you know from your reporting why it was a sloppy effort and whether he literally just didn't know he would be short the votes or why he didn't start earlier or both these books and others raise

if he does not run, die san 'tis is at 68%, pompeo 5%, so on and so forth.the cpac, one include trump, one not? >> since we know trump is such an ego-driven person, he's going to be asking himself how dare desantis get 68% if he doesn't run. that's what he'll fixate on. i continue him to continue to make statements to try to quell some of that energy, because he recognizes that desantis is a rising start within the gop. i also think that in reaction, trump will continue to feed into the same issues that we hear his base and c packs tannedees want more of. more of the big lie, more of the suppression bills passing across the country, including texas. more of hour trump will continue to leverage that to stir not only the energy that we're seeing from state legislatures where republicans are running the show, but also to stir the questions that his base should be asking about elections and election security, even though there, again, is zero evidence of voter fraud from 2020. >> noel, you know, from what ali was telling us, the former president is really drivin

i was talking to pompeo earlier today, and we were talking about some issues. one by one you look at the covid lab leak. that we knew, that was the most obvious source. here you have biden shutting down the investigation. even secretary pompeo in the trump administration warns him. it it did originate in the lab. or at least every thing points toward that. the images on the border today were galling. the biggest group that fox news had ever seen arriving on our southern border. get this, as biden considered rolling back another trump policy. title 42 which keeps families out because of covid health concerns. so if he rolls that back, you're going to see even more and more on our borders. those are just two issues of many. your grades were spot on. i had f minus on my sheet but i will take it. >> sean: i thought three fs on one topic was a good take. the media, ari fleischer, they are complicit. i call it the candidate protection program. notice the presidential protection program. they don't show his cognitive struggles. they don't talk about losing energy inde

morgan ortagus is the former state department spokesperson, she worked for mike pompeo. good morning to you. the where there from jen psaki. he sank >> it's beyond irresponsible. the lighthouses right in their condonation. but it's going to take more because we started these same condemnations and this same call for transparency a year and half ago. a lot of stuff you seeing in the room right now that's being reported, we knew this a year and a half ago. as mike pompeo spokesperson, we did an off the record briefing with major anchors around america, give them this information. everything you say reported now, the only person who ran with it at the time, that was bret baier. we had every major network represented on that call when we said to look at this information. that's why mike pompeo and i started talking about this a year and a half ago february of 2020. while in munich, germany, he started wanting the world that china needed to be transparent, needed to be open, and those calls were largely ignored, bill. what consequence has china suffered for the fact that they

quote, the crazies have taken over, secretary of state mike pompeo warned a colleague.mr. trump might be more willing to engage in an international conflict to strengthen his argument for remaining in office. >> becomes concerned about the national security of the country, the domestic unrest and what that could mean internationally. privately he sets up a daily call with the chief of staff and the nation's top general in order to try to keep temperatures down. publically, what does he say? he says that there is going to be a smooth transition to a second trump turn. >> reporter: cnn reached out to a representative for a response. he did not comment record. another new book by washington post reporters depicts trump lawyer rudy giuliani on election night pushing trump to forget that fox news had called arizona for joe biden. quote, just go declare victory right now giuliani told trump. you have got to go declare victory now. giuliani's interjection of his just say you won strategy infuriated trump's campaign advisers. >> these two old guys trying to determine what's rea

i think secretary pompeo did something similar in iran.n opportunity for biden and he seems to be willing to listen. >> the first thing i thought of was the state of florida and political implication. he did not have to say today they were looking for a technological way to bring the internet back and communication back. i don't think that was any accident. that was a signal he wanted that message out there. and to your point, there is a sense here that there is a difference between president joe biden and the obama administration. he was putting that marker down as well. >> one of the other areas of disagreement -- there are lots of areas of disagreements to be honest. biden wants to allow companies to make vaccines without the intellectual copyright laws. merkel is not there. merkel is not as willing to be hardline on china. and nord stream, the pipeline. >>> patrick joins us on the phone. biden saying the white house is looking at restoring internet service in cuba. the last time i saw you in cuba in 2015 when the obama administration w