other religious figures include noah, moses, cain and abel, pontius pilate and the virgin mary. in the land where some people think there isn't a whole hot of religion. what's this all about? joining me now, father jonathan morris and a political and entertainment columnist for media.com. welcome to you both. father jonathan, let me start with you. why do you think the big interest in these movies based on the bible? >> sure, martha. you know, i remember being on the set of the film "the passion of the christ," and being in a trailer on set with mel gibson and steve mca see the producer, jim caviezel, and mel gibson saying, you know what? if we don't make this successful, there will not be another big, major hollywood film for the next 50 years. we've got all the star power, we've got the money that we're putting into it, and we've got lots of forces trying to stop this. and that's why he felt and, of course, we know he had some major difficulties afterwards, but he felt very strongly a passion to get this done for the sake of the future of films. i think we're seeing some of th