you just said is the master and margarita, tells the story of jesus from the point of view of pontius pilate. it is only one of the narrative strategies in reasonably good . you discover you are more resilient than you thought you were. i'm glad to be at the end of the story because it was a long time ago. the satanic verses was my fifth published book. this is my 18th. most of my life as a writer comes after it. feels like a long time ago. i am proud of it and pleased the first is less, the book is finally being read just as a novel, being studied in colleges and so on and has the life of a novel. some love it, some hated and some are in between and that is the ordinary life of a book. i am glad to have that life, small principal called free expression which is worth fighting for, in these times and administration which is keen on the second amendment but not so keen on the first. [applause] >> let me try to answer. let me touch on it. regarding christopher hitchens, have you speculated much -- >> it is very difficult. christopher hated the clintons. christopher's dislike of the clintons wa