are getting a great deal but that concept that ceos like myself, the average fortune 500 works for pooley 56 years said his job so how many jobs will you really create? also that fortune 500 as a whole that job creation happened that the small start at the fortune 500 companies so the idea that somehow their job creators i take that back. the art auctioneers. >> you are very modest to dave you were better at it. >> to be in the right place at the right time avoid the wrong place. then be lucky but i do want to get back some talk about the damage to you think the have heard lots of arguments about what is damaging the economy and a disproportionate amount of money going to the top. as the excessive ceo pay starting the economy. >> but on that side and those of tens of millions of dollars. but other than that the effects of employee morale broke making five the times we make is very hard. but then -- but when you have that ability of a $30 million bonus you want to achieve certain goals. you'll focus on anything else. on the number of yachts used. . . [laughter]

buie pooley, maryland, jean, go ahead. i would like to suggest one policy from dr. ortez, the department of energy secretary and obama, and what to do with increased natural gas availability. in that study, two years in m.i.t. that he chaired, they two up to it with conclusions. first, use the natural gas to replace the worst performing .oal plants with electricity that has artie been done to a large extent and has worked out well. the second one hasn't been acted on, to use it as a practical, economic risk proven fuel. and the source of producing .nother, petrochemicals the united states is, in fact, today, from louisiana, doing exactly what m.i.t. suggested, to taking the natural gas and turning it to ethanol, but it has been going on 1100 foot methanol tankers to china and as a is using it right now mixture of fuel for their citizens and the have come out with a 100% methanol cost. caller: you want to see that brought to the united states and used. kerry used as a source for other countries and also i'm nots? guest: familiar with the study you mentioned, but the