all right james poore. good morning, mr. poore.are represented by cathy frye, is that correct? >> yes, sir. >> unlike cedric whose public defender is likely to be carrying a heavy case load and have limited resources, james poore has hired a private defense attorney. >> miss frye has been in this morning. not guilty plea entered on your behalf. good luck. >> thank you. >> after the arraignment, the two brothers try to talk. but an officer notices the exchange and separates them. >> did that go the way you thought? >> oh, no. i didn't know nothing about no attorney. how is his court process moving quicker than mine. >> you tried to talk after you were arraigned. what were you trying to say to him? >> how did you get an attorney? how were you able to afford an attorney. i know i'm scrambling to try to get an attorney myself. >> you gonna be cool? >> it never hurts to shed a tear especially when you're a man of deep feelings. >> catch up, catch up, catch up. >> on the advice of his new attorney, james declined to discuss the case any

the mandate was to explicitly look at the rights of the poor. and that is how we framed our analysis so we looked at transportation within cities in pakistan. we looked at how they should be structured so the lifestyle might change that link the poor with the mainstream. and the world bank was happy with that analysis. another example was looking at trade in south asia. the political economy and a key aspect of that analysis was to look at how trade could benefit across border regions and that was an explicit focus of the studies and i am wondering and when i tell you is the world bank changing or am i looking at it differently? >> thank you for that question. that is very good. there are efforts within them to do things to try to give poor people more right, spread democracy. there are words like empowerment and i guess this debate is happening at a larger level than that. because it is like the world bank a split approach that is strong and a somewhat unclear way in which all of these words that sound good are actually the same thing as what i

of the poor. i wonder if you could talk more about how the bank has embraced that set of issues. >> you know, i've talked about it so much that i decided not to talk about it this much in this particular speech. when i -- when i arrived at the world bank -- did i see harold in the group? so harold is one of my heroes and he was right there helping us begin that fight against hiv-aids, and the reason i point to harold is that when i came onboard, i asked the people who are working on climate change, i said, do you have a plan that equals to the challenge? and they said, well, what do you mean? i said, let's take one example. let's take hiv-aids. so when harold was head of n.i.h., they mounted a campaign the likes we have not seen before so we discovered people living with the virus in 1981 and n.i.h. made massive investments in be h.i.v. research. . there are two kinds of people in the world, people who are researching aids now and people who will be researching in the future. they moved huge amoun

they care a lot about the material poverty of poor people in africa and other poor parts of the world. what am trying to convince them is it is not only about material poverty. it's also about the dignity and rights of poor people. you cannot treat for people like some kind of bundle of needs for food and water and shelter. that would be very disrespectful of their dignity to treat them like that. i'm trying to change the conversation away from that focus only about caring about the material poverty to respecting their dignity and rights and their demand for democratic accountability of their own government. >> i couldn't agree more with everything you have just said, but isn't that always the fight, trying to get people to celebrate dignity and to stop contesting their humanity? that is always the fight. >> it is always the fight. we see it every day. over the week and there's a story about madonna going into allowing and trumpeting herself as the saver -- savior of malawi. are savingle who ourselves. we don't need some rockstar to save us. i love music, but god help us if the rock s

of the poor. i wonder if you could talk more about how the bank has embraced that set of issues. >> you know, i've talked about it so much that i decided not to talk about it this much in this particular speech. when i -- when i arrived at the world bank -- did i see harold in the group? so harold is one of my heroes and he was right there helping us begin that fight against hiv-aids, and the reason i point to harold is that when i came onboard, i asked the people who are working on climate change, i said, do you have a plan that equals to the challenge? and they said, well, what do you mean? i said, let's take one example. let's take hiv-aids. so when harold was head of n.i.h., they mounted a campaign the likes we have not seen before so we discovered people living with the virus in 1981 and n.i.h. made massive investments in be h.i.v. research. i remember harold saying, there are two types in this world. people researching hiv now and people who will be researching hiv in the future. moved huge

poor, tormented soul. there is so much i want to ask, to learn, to see, but dare not look for shuddering. ah. oh, pity. where in this world am i bound? my voice was swept away on the air. fate, why have you sprung from me? to horrors too grim to hear, too terrible to see. oh, darkness, dark clouds assailing in me. unspeakably, abhorrant born on an ill wind's wing. ah, ah. the sharp points of madness and memory of evil stab me through and through. no wonder, in such calamity, evils redouble on you and grief redoubles. my old friend, still you are my faithful help. still you patiently care for me in my blindness. oh, i'm not mistaken. i recognize your voice clearly through the darkness. how could you do it? how nerve yourself to put out your eyes? what power drove you? it was apollo, my friends. apollo, who brought to fulfillment my bitter, my bitter pain. but the hand that struck me was no one's but mine own. what need had i of sight with nothing to delight my eyes. true, it's as you say. what could i see o

poor people are not poor because rich people are rich.hat we need to do is establish a bridge so that those with wealth will be encouraged to invest in these communities. any low income ethnic groups, their participation in the american economy depends upon their small business formation rate. business -- a healthy community generates 2.5 million businesses per year. in the black and brown community it is more like 300,000 people per year. we need to improve that. host: tweeting in. "the approach to get rid of poverty and education." barbara follows up on what you talked about in detroit. conclude it was ok for insurance companies and banks to be racist in their policies and make blacks jumped through hoops. guest: it is not a matter of making it racist. it is a matter of people need to understand how to make judgments in certain communities. if you are an -- insurance company and the neighborhood is run down. there is violence and crime. it is very difficult for them to make a logical conclusion that you can bring about reform. so what y

we are raising poor countries up. most people live in middle-income countries now. there is more to be done on health and agriculture, but the track record success, if you don't see that you are not going to participate in what we need to do. >> you say that there will be no poor nations by the time we reach 2035. >> almost none. landlocked countries in africa, north korea if they don't change the government, but it will be less than 10. when i was born, almost all countries were poor. now we are down to about one quarter of them. the next 20 years, if we focus on it, we can make it really exceptional. >> mike, you donated last year about $100 million to the bill gates foundation to eradicate polio from this world. do you share the same optimism as bill? >> i couldn't be more in agreement. one of the things people miss is that advocates seldom want to acknowledge success. they always want to have more to do, raise more money, be more important. bill is 100% right. there are fewer people starving, fewer people sleeping without a roof over their head. fewer people tha

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when he he said the poor, we will always have us. truth is that the united states provides more mo opportunity to more people than any other nation that has ever existed. millions of folks all over the world want to come here. and we have done that by developing a free market system. even poor americans here have material things that most in the world can only dream of. yet, the left wants to tearte down the capitalistic structure that has provided vast opportunity. they want to impose a nannyna state that redistributestes income. that strategy has failedai everywhere it's been tried. the left doesn't care about the facts. f it's all about hating america. robert shear the compassionate guy, the booster of pope francis has the last word, quote: what americans stand for is a launching pad for multinational corporationsatio that within a donley exploit the resources and people ofpe this planet with abandon. all the while these modern plunders are protected by the massive military power of a u.s. government, unquote. to shear and the far

what's the number one problem poor people have? they don't have money, and they don't have a job, and they don't have good housing. >> also, culture in america is having a job. >> yes. >> it's a very, very lazy argument. >> well, thank you. and let me just go back to my simple replica of history. the old neighborhood i lived in in north philly, which was once irish, is now black. when it was irish, my grand pop could get on the subway and go two blocks to a really good industry job. it's the deindustrialization of the big city, the destruction of all blue collar jobs in the inner city area where blacks live now today, they don't have the jobs our crowd had two generations ago. that's the reason these kids, only business model looming in front of them is trouble, and that's the problem. anyway, thank you, gene robinson, and thank you, howard fineman. the a students are always going to do well, i'm worried about the b and c students, like me. >>> senate republicans say no to an increase in minimum wage and democrats smell a campaign

the hospital was where the poor came to die. here were two rows of 31 beds where the poor lay two or three to a bed. the 15th century was a time of famine, war, and plague. thousands of people could die in a place like this, so the chancellor had provided that each patient could look from his bed to the wall above the altar, where there hung a tremendous vision of the end-- the last judgment of roger van der weyden. on the day of judgment, the dead rise from the earth to be judged by their savior. christ sits enthroned in glory above the archangel michael, who holds the scales which will weigh the vices and virtues of all who are to be judged on the day of reckoning. saint john the baptist, mary, the 12 apostles, and other holy figures intercede on behalf of the sinners. the lucky few are ushered through a gateway into the kingdom of heaven. this painting was done with bright colors so it could be seen by the sick even from their deathbeds. van der weyden excelled at depicting the inner emotions of his characters, and on christ'

the republicans have tried to split the middle class from the poor saying the poor are your enemies.y are different from you. you have to pay taxes and they are lazy. but the problem is that increasing numbers of middle class people are actually becoming poor or are being poor for a particular length of time. this economy is a very bad economy in case you haven't noticed. and a lot of of the increases in spending on the poor are really increases in spending on everybody who has lost jobs, not because they have been lazy, but because they have actually simply been part of a very, very bad economy. the other point to make is that this is not a deficit-reducing budget with regard to cutting programs for the poor. it increases spending on the military. and that's important to understand. this is a republican budget. >> all right, well, there's obviously a disagreement. i think there are certainly elements of the atmospherics of what the congressman are emphasizing that are worth looking at. thank you both for joining us. you can look at new product by both of our guests. the book from mr

how do we get with the poor? that's what the pope is calling us all to not ideology but the core of the gospel of christ. >> all heright. but the difference here is ? politics verses theory. theoretically every christian is going to help the poor. e in reality not every christian does. but my contention is that capitalism does the most good for the e poor. it provide the opportunity for poor people who will cease it.om some will not. i don't believe it is the op gages of a christian or anybody else tor give their money and resources to people who are self destructive. am i wrong mr. owe royal? >> the pope is not asking anybody to do that. this is the misreading of that document. this comes from the exhortation called the joy of the gospel. it is a spiritual document where the pope is calling each of us to actively get ingauged to helf us neefrest. >> they op opted the pope to try to push a nanny state to say capitalism is wrong. you have to break it down and t give. jesus said to his apostles you give up everythi

while we in the rich world may be blind to the suffering of the poor, the poor throughout the world are very much aware of how the rich live. and they have shown they're willing to take action. we cannot remain voluntarily blind to the impact of economic choices of the poor and envelope or not only because of the moral argument that treating your neighbor with dignity is the right thing to do, but also because of the economic argument that when growth includes women, young people and the poor, we all benefit, and inequality -- creates income losses of 27% in the middle east and north africa. inclusive growth builds a stronger, more robust social contract between people and their government. this also as we know build stronger economies. if we raise women's employment to the levels of men, for instance, average income would rise by 19% in south asia and 14% in latin america. just a year ago the governors of the world bank group endorsed to new goals for our institution. the first that we will commit our energy to end extreme poverty by 2030, and the second that we work to boost shared pr

is a war on the poor. as you indicate, what it does, is say to people who need a little help for food and nutrition, we'll take that away from you. because our republican theory, is when we help a struggling family, it just means we sap their will to work. they will be playing around in hammock, and therefore, the way to really help people is take away food nutrition programs for kids. let's take away the school lunch programs. that will help provide people with more dignity according to this twisted philosophy. they've been talking about addressing this issue. now we see that's all it's been is talk. in fact their budget would be very, very harmful. if you're a senior, this reopens the prescription drug donut hole. you'll have to save thousands of dollars more in the coming years to pay for your prescription drugs. they keep in place what's called the medicare sequester. really, senior, kids, the vast middle class, as well as poor americans who are struggling, all of them get hit and again all to provide

what do poor people need? an actual poor guy walks in. he saw the sign and was hoping he could get help with his rent. he asks for help. nobody could figure out what to do. call security? so. at aei, and the urge you to go org wen our stuff at aei. are doing pathbreaking work on poverty. we see the people who put their lives together that have been most disadvantage, people out of prison or he were homeless, former prostitute. people at the bottom of society and say what did you do to put your life together again? what do you need? what do all poor people need? they are the experts. what do they say? they say we need hope. we have to look at the future. there is something for us there. we do take moral agency, if we do get relief and we work hard we can actually do something. this is a country losing hope. it is bad enough about enough me and my kids. you know who needs help? the people we are visiting that are actually poor and being left behind. it do you know what we need? a hope agenda. here is the hope agenda in a nutshell. education

that was intended for the poor and converted it into services from the poor. and then they are driven by people that have no vested interest in solving the problem. it isn't that people working inside of the poverty industry are bad people. but they work and bureaucratic structure that causes good people to do bad things. so we are injuring people with a helping hand in the name of rescuing them. >> host: oxford pennsylvania calling on the independent line. sauron with robert woodson. >> caller: good morning. i was going to say the problem with poverty money isn't always the answer but goodness, look how the politicians send jobs overseas. i was in a shop the other day looking at $60,000 made in canada, china and mexico. everything could have been made in this country but it's not made in this country because the billionaires don't want to share their wealth. the guy that goes across the bridge in the city and the limousine he doesn't care about that family. until people start carrying it's never going to change. you have a quote i want to read and it's very s

because anytime you cut $4.3 trillion out of a budget and $3 trillion hurts the poor, the working poor, the middle class and senior citizens, what do you expect for them to do. you can not base any kind of budget on the backs of people who can least afford it. >> new numbers show there's an enormous and growing grap between ceo's and minimum wage work es in 2013, ceo's made an average of $11.7 million. minimum wage workers got just over $125,000. how can anyone argue that we need to focus on closing this gap. many do argue that those at the top will eventually wake up and care for those at the bomb. but what our experience is is that that is not true. it's not good for our democracy, it's not good for our economy to have so many of our people, 20%, 25% of our people struggling so hard. that is wrong. we've got to change that direction. when you look at the fact that the said incoming equality is the defining issue of our time and "the washington post" reports that democrats are being urged to run and use the exact same 1% economic messaging that won president obama's second term in 201

being poor and black is different than being poor and white or being poor and latino is different thanng poor and white. and what affirmative action does is take into account the reality that black and latino students do not have equal opportunity. >> but that's an opinion. that's an opinion and it's also subjective and the 14th amendment is not subjective. it basically says all measures will be treated equally under the law. look, counselor, you know what you are arguing is theoretical. you know it because it is all subjective. >> no it not theoretical. bill, just come to the city of detroit. >> oh, stop. been to the city of detroit many times. >> being tweeted equally. >> counselor, it's -- >> -- tenet. >> they are not. no, it's reality, bill. and what the court did and what you are doing is just ignoring the reality black and latino students face in this country and let me finish. what's wrong with what you are saying is. this every group in this society, poor kids, veterans, rural kids and everybody can and does go to the governing bodies and get adjustments to recognize the inequa

many of the states whose poor residents are still poor and are losing out as a result of the cuts, theyd. the governors of at least eight states, montana, connecticut, massachusetts, new york, oregon, pen, rhode island, and vermont expanded their heating aid in order to maintain food stamp benefits for their poorer citizens. this move did not sit well with house speaker john boehner. >> since the passage of the farm bill, states have found ways to cheat once again on signing up people for food stamps. i would hope that the house would act to try to stop this cheating and this fraud from continuing. >> for governors this wasn't about cheating. it was about maintaining a lifeline for poor people who desperately needed the assistance. and it wasn't just democrats. pennsylvania's republican governor tom corbett, a tea party ally, is one of the governors who moved to preserve food stamp benefits for his state. now let's take another look at that map. most of the states that made the move to maintain food stamp benefits are concentrated in one region, the northeast. but there is one state in

and this also relates in poor health. we have incredible researchers and that are advancing knowledge around the impacts of food insecurity on health and the cost to the health care system. we know this is poor intake and behavior like binging or rationing, extreme anxiety and cope with other issues that you have and higher health care cost and for children food security and proper nutrition is critical for emotional development and intellectual development and not having enough food really results in poor health and more hospitalization. for pregnant mothers it's sick and smaller babies and for seniors impact on physical health. adherence to medication is decreased when you're food insecure and mental issues exacerbated and all of the costs are passed on to the other city departments so from last hearing that we had we gave you high priority recommendations basically based on their leverage potential or their invocative potential and also they were really targeted towards the most needy pop populations -- this was the fr

this leaves the protection of small farmers, especially the poor ones.y of farm programs in the u.s. shows that there are cost-effective ways of helping poor farmers during the lean years. whether these meet the political objectives of successive administrations and congresses is an entirely different matter. for the past 100 years or so, farmers have become more and more productive. that's meant more food at lower prices. it's also meant that fewer and fewer farmers were needed to feed the nation. and even with all the government programs, only the most efficient farmers could manage to turn a reasonab profit. oso millions of farm familiesrs have been forced to leave the land, and those who remain must still contend with the combined forces of perfect competition and inelastic demand. this is david schoumacher. i'll get that one. must be careful. well, that's a nice picture. come on, anna. ok. announcer: foreclosure doesn't affect just you. it affects your whole family, too. if you've fallen behind on your mortgage, we can help. call 1-888-995-hope. bec

were so poor. sullivan, who grew up in dire poverty in the five points retained vividded memories of going without shoes as a child. when he attained power and influence in new york he became a neighborhood legend for his charitable works including his annual giveaway when the poor lined up to receive free shoes. sullivan explained his views this way: >> never ask a hungry man about his past. i feed him not because he's good, but because he needs to do. >> tammany figures also challenged american expansion overseas at the turn of the 20th century. progressives like the sainted teddy roosevelt believed in spreading anglo-saxon civilization to places like hawaii, the philippines, cuba and central america. tammany boss richard croaker was among the most vocal opponents of america's imperialist designs. croaker retained a very irish and a very old-fashioned american view of imperialism. he once told reporters why he opposed overseas adventures. >> let me explain what i mean by anti-imperialism. it mean

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nobody wants to be weak and poor but people are weak and poor. should we shouldn't thunt them side?ey have fewer rights than anybody else? a program that i write about in the book p-100 program, people who apply for welfare have to be preemptively searched by the state, you know, in order to make sure they're not lying on their welfare application. that seems like a fourth amendment violation to me. but other people, bail-out recipients a welfare taker, they don't have to go through that same kind of treatment. the reason for that is because welfare recipients on the whole, unsympathetic. we think of them being parasites feeding off the rest of us and everybody looks down upon them and feels they're a tremendous imposition. you can see this in the court system and the difference in the way that the judges look at that defendant versus the way they look at white collar defendant. it's a psychological thing more than anything else. >> yeah, i think one of the best parts of the book you examine two tracks, sort of corporate wrong doing, white collar wrong doing and the way we treat eve

it says feed the poor. it does not take take from the poor and give to the rich. 95% are going to wake up because we can take control of this country. want to change in this country, you can if you have money. host: this is from one of our other viewers. created?ood deserts that's a good question. to laces like detroit -- i lived and worked in detroit for several years. good luck finding a supermarket in detroit. i mentioned this other community that i visited in kentucky earlier. -- if there isat a business decision at play who arer the folks opening or not opening stores. you look at businesses like walmart. they are often in rural communities. they don't end up in all places. i don't completely know the answer to why you end up with that kind of circumstance. you talk to folks and there seems to be some concerns about whether or not they can even make money. you occasionally hear things like that. you have a population of people that want food. not sure i understand the argument. host: this is a tweak for michael who says, "poverty is .he root cause it should b

i grew up poor but not the ceo. dr. ben carson is a lot lately, the former chief of pediatric neurosurgery at johns hopkins hospital, a perfect example of how people can overcome by her circuit dances. inner-city teacher had a horrible time from a single mother, et et cetera, et cetera. we don't tell their stories in america. america is a storytelling nation. >> host: in the book you have an entire section of people who would give these testimony and you tell their stories. rather than have me pick out one or two, why don't you pick up one or two until the stories? johnny erickson is a quadriplegic who had next day when she was 17 years old soon struggled a lot with disparate meaning of life, taught herself to pay by sticking a paint brush in her teeth and has created a lot of things. work with handicapped people and push strongly the americans with disabilities act and has been an inspiration to millions including people who do not have physical challenges. there's a couple of african people in their grep in horrible c

i grew up poor but now i'm a ceo. take dr. bern ben carson, the former chairman of pediatric surgery in johns hopkins. a perfect example our people can overcome dire circumstances. grew up in inner city detroit, a horrible time. single mother raised he and his brother, et cetera, et cetera. we don't tell those kinds of stories in america. merrers a story-telling nation. >> host: in the book you have an entire section of people who would give this testimony and you tell their stories. so, rather than have me pick out one or two why don't you, as the author, pick out one or two and the at the story. >> guest: i talk about ben carson johnny ericson, had an accident when she was 17 years old, wading, and paraplegic, and struggled with despair and the meaning of life. taught herself to paint by sticking a pain brush in her teeth and has created a lot of wonderful things. works with handicapped people. was wind -- pushed strongly the americans with disables hack and it's been an inprecision to millions including people who do not ha

they're not poor. that is taking resources from the poor. expansion -- >> not on the medicaid expansion. >> a moral issue, not a -- >> that's a matt train wreck. >> excuse me? >> it's not the medicaid expansion. >> oh, my brother, yes it is, you need to look at your facts. >> actually, she needed to look at her facts, but okay. we let you know when people were being awesome. i'm thinking best pope ever? and we never let you down when it came to breaking news. >> there's breaking news regarding toronto's embattled mayor rob ford. watch out for that camera, hey? >> [ bleep ]. holy. >> that's the first time i got to see that. it's awesome. we tried to bring you the stories no one else was talking about which wasn't always the case at some other networks. sometimes in the world of cable news, there's a mismatch between the demand for new information about a story and the supply of new information that exists. we imagined a world in which a republican congress actually got stuff done. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. tremendous news o

favorite nairobi restaurants, but the global food crisis has far more serious implications for the poor. judice mwango's customers may not have much money, but at least they have jobs. she prepares packed lunches at her home and then delivers them to office workers in the city. >> we had moved away from traditional foods, because we had thought of them as a poor mans food. so, i'm trying to glamorize it to tell people to.... >> because of their relatively low cost, judice's customers may have little alternative but to eat traditional food, but kenya's best known tv chef susan kamau extols their virtues for other reasons. ...traditional foods are much more nutritious. >> so this is an amazing market where you can get so many varieties of fruit and vegetables. >> yes, this is rebecca here and she has a wonderful stall with a lot of different herbs and vegetables. this is 'kunde' and it comes in a bunch like this she's told us it's 5 shillings a bunch and then there's something like this which is very beautiful, look at the difference, this is a 'kunde', small little leaves, this is what w

when the poor in this country are compared to the poor in industrialized countries it's the case, and also is the case for the lower middle class. the middle american, the median american income, that that american has fallen behind the canadians. >> that's the point of the study. you know, it's basically inequality has now really started hurting even the middle class. it's a big story. we knew that the american poor have been actually basically stagnant for a long time. and falling behind the poor in other rich countries. that gradually has gone up towards the lower middle class, but for the first time, to some extent we have the data going back to the 1970s. you can probably extrapolate in the past. for the first time, maybe in 50, 80, 100 years that the middle class americaners not the top. >> this happened after 2000 or so, because american incomes had kept growing by 20% sips 1980. the year 2000 came along, incomes stagnated from the middle down, and that's why it's really happened. other country's wealth in those income categories went up. >> it's a longer process. it started in

i grew up poor but now i'm the ceo. it's been carson has been in the news a lot lately the former pediatric neurosurgeon at johns hopkins have perfect example of how people can overcome dire circumstances. grew up in inner-city detroit. most people know the story or they can look it up. we don't tell the stories in america. america is a storytelling nation. >> host: in the book what you do if is you have an entire section of people who would give this testimony. you tell their stories. rather than have me pick out one or two white iq is the author picked out one or two until the story. >> guest: i talk about johnny erickson who is a quadriplegic who had an accident at 17 yourself swimming and struggled with despair and the meaning of life, taught herself to paint by sticking a paint russian her teeth and has created wonderful things, worked with handicapped people was behind americans with disabilities act and has been an inspiration to millions including people who don't have physical challenges. there are a couple of