but these are humorous articles and they were very poplar in the times. one came out in about 1912. the other in the early 1920s. and it has hilarious raps on how howe and hummel opry. this book was written by a former new york district attorney who in tangled within a number of times. so i think they were motivated essentially by money. and then i also think they grew to enjoy their celebrity, so by the end of their career, they want to be part of high profile cases. so for example, if any of you have read the age of darkness, there's an opening scene in that book when the truck, mutilated trunk of a body washes up on the east river. is the space on an actual case in which a masseuse, he was stabbed, shot, decapitated, and then dismembered by his ex-girlfriend and her new lover. so he was thoroughly, thoroughly done in. eventually, his tormentors were caught and tried. actually in long island city which was just across the water. now, one of the defendants, a gentleman named william back shows up in court and he says, i don't have a lawyer. and there's a tradition in new york. it w