local authorities can offer protetion from smugglers, or make sure poppy crops escape raids. amid karzai installed leaders into key positions. and he is now powerless to stop them using their offices for illegal purposes. >> the black market is closely tied. that means drug production and smuggling. president karzai needs support of these rulers, so he is unable to control their activities. >> while the international community pressures karzai to take action against the opium industry, complex relationships bar progress. >> that was evident last year during the election process. there was systematic fraud, but the international community remained silent. >> afghan's drug trade further complicates security forces. >> one alternative to opium farming is the production of rose oil. the german aid organization has run a successful program in jalalabad for 7 years, and some farmers have shifted from poppies to roses. it is a lucrative business compared with many other crops. >> smell the roses. the scent wafts through this office in bonn, where the german aid organization manages

i would not by the poppy crop, i would buy all the crops. buying the poppy crop blogs to the agenda. >> and the comments? >> i agree. >> thank you very much. >> i am going to thank our panel very much for the work they have done not only on this piece by presenting it here. one of our questioners made the very good point of having mr. kwiatkowski join us today. these are hard questions. you have bad news and bad news which to have presented, but asking hard questions and making policy makers deal with those i your study and certainly the institute of peace. thank you very much for your work, ashley. join me in thanking the panel. thank you very much. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2010] >> britain's queen elizabeth speaks of the u.n. this morning. president obama meets with israeei prime minister benjamin not to get to which is followed by today's "washington journal." >> book-tv continues in primetime tonight with a focus on economic issues. mohammad yuni

not writing people not to go poppy. we're not when it change the amount of poppy growing. we can only move it around the country. if we went to the farmers and helped make them rich, rather than help them stop growing poppy, we could do development the right way. we're not paying the caliban -- taliban attacks. if you want help growing pomegranate, you better be sure that there is some poppy growing, because that is what brings in the development money. if you uncouple the development from opium production, you can make friends. and finally demand destruction is unambiguously good. a drug program that wooks even a little bit, that is better to nothing. those are all productive suggestions, and i hope we're clear on how limited the capacity is. i am worried that if we focus entirely on a constructive suggestion, we will relabel all our current efforts under a new set of labels and keep doing what we're doing, which is mostly mistakes. even if there's not much that we can do that does more good than harm, that is still not a reaaon to keep doing a lot of stuff that does mooe

it is highly localized, with two thirds of the country either poppy-free, or essentially poppy-free. one province the site of the recent coalition effective produces sufficient opium to meet the entire world's and demand. -- world's demand. the variations by region is an opportunity for targeted anti- narcotic efforts. one size does not fit all, and with limited resources, they can be deployed were they are likely to be most effective, or, at least, do the least harm. he said chile, where the taliban -- essentially, or the taliban are in control, opium is grown. with the government is in if you turn to page 10 and 11, it illustrates the imperative to do something is widely held. if anyone -- anyone in a position of power does not want to sit idly by. exactly for what one calls to be done depends on the perspective. iran and russia bear the biggest brunt of the heroin epidemic. iranian and russian officials, who do not necessarily have our best interests at heart have legitimate concerns about heroin and opium coming from afghanistan. the weak case they make is that nato coalition for

the layer on top of that then is the garden elements, the poppies, the laurels, the humming birds coming through, growing, bursting out of the corners. in the detail that will follow, you'll see that with the lines overlapped, it will be a shifts of color, and it's going to be interesting play, with the way the natural light snift the day will also add an additional layering of colors that will create new patterns. the smaller detailed elements are those that i was alluding disturb -- alluding to earlier. they're very settle and we'll get them more closely in detail. do you have any questions at this point? because this is the slide that shows the full design. >> looks like there's no questions. >> ok. you can come back if you like. there is a 3-d rendering. again, as i mentioned, the steel white beams, the columns, they're going to tie the white pattern of the victorian ties into these steel beams. on top of that, again, are the garden elements. we worked really hard both the france arts commission, the gdpa, as well as the pcpa architecture firm to choose the colors here so that it rea

i would certainly keep them poppy free. the questton is how much attention should we pay to stopping the poppy growth and sale from the seven remaining provinces? and i think they have made the case that as a drug issue, it doesn't make an awful lot of difference. by the way, not just our growth possiblies all over afghanistan but they are all over that part of the world throughout all of the stans you could grow poppies in very large quantity tiss and you could move them -- quantities and you could move them easily. i find the modest form of argument that this is bad counterinsurgency law a little weaker and that's the part that i wonder about. at one point that arked that drugs constitute only a very small part of the taliban's total revenues. but there is a cost to replacing them with dependence on other countries and dependence on wealthy, more moderate countries who might make demans in exchange. so that is not a total effect that that $70 billion could be replaced out of so you hadi coffers. it -- out of saudi coffers

we took the other one away, narcotic poppy destruction. and they talk about american and international forces defiling the people, and then they talk about women but in a totally grotesque way that i won't even discuss here. and so theirropaganda always eliminates this because they know tt was their biggest mistake. >> thank you. thank you, madam chair. >> thank you, mr. chandler. >> thank you, madam chair. ambassador holbrooke, dr. shah, all of the folks who are sitting in those two rows behind you, i can't tell you how much respect i have for what you all do. i don't think you're ever appreciated enough, and i am certain that people generally don't understand the enormity and the difficulty of what you're dealing with, what you deal with on a day-to-day basis. so i want to thank you. i want to thk you for all of your efforts. ambassador holbrooke, you said that -- i think earlier you said that the circumstances of this region made this a very, very difficult job. that i thought was one of the all-time understatements that i've ever heard

big poppy with a shot to right, and ichiro on his horse. leaping at the wall, robbing ortiz of the homer. so nice, you've got to see it twice. >>> and, finally, to baltimore, twins and orioles, first baseman ty wigginton appears to tag out j.j. hardy as he slides back to first, but the ump sees it differently, calls hardy safe, and wigginton wigs out. he is ejected. out comes manager juan samuel. joining in on the fun. he, too, sent to the showers, and the fans gave samuel a standing ovation, probably the only standing "o" in baltimore this year. the o's suffer their league worst, 65th loss. twins prevail, 5-0. that's your early look at sports on "early today." i'm bill seward. >>> well, reports say there is a suspect in the case of who leaked the mel gibson tapes. your early morning entertainment headlines, straight ahead. >>> also, a high water mark for american women on the high sea. you're watching "early today." lassiter lasseter >>> no rain in sight. leave the umbrella at home everywhere in the west, seattle, boise, salt lake city to

so going back again, you'll see the elements of the poppies and the laurels intersecting and overlapping with these subtle patterns and icons. one thing -- i hope that you can see it in the printouts perhaps better is that i'm really playing with the shifting of color. so as people are walking across the space, there's really a sense of movement, and it's not a stagnant floor, but something that feels alive. much as a garden would. i think it's going to reflect in the city park above as like i mentioned before, the light coming through the space and activating the design as well. any questions? >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> i'd also like to add that the staff and the architects were so taken with the design that they've asked julie to, as marie ya says, sprinkle her design throughout the building, so there will be elements of the design continued, whether through corridors or passenger waiting lobbies, perhaps a band of humming birds will show up in the restrooms. we will work -- that will be developed during design development. weir not at that stage yet, but there will be so

you might also notice some elements that i found were used, including california laurel, poppy, and humming bird. other elements that i was inspired by were the diversity of the cultures across the bay area. so in my work, i draw from pot earns as a way to subtley reference these intersections. you can see here across cultures. there are markers, lines, shapes that repeat themselves and we find -- i'm a little nervous to be here. i look at these elements that really appear across culture. we identify them, we may not know exactly where they come from, but there's something to them that is memorable to us, or that we find as a similarity to. so all these together, -- so that being said, using those elements as a way to structure the design that i'm presenting to you here. here is a large scale full format image of the design across the grand hall. the circle to the left represents the light well. oh, go aheadness. >> are you ok? >> if you'll let me add for a second, the color on the main monitor, it is washed out and nothing like the true vibrancy of the colors that julie is working on. i've

talk about that bad there's a enough money made in bringing precursors to this country to turn our poppies into heroin and if you don't attack that angle of this problem by just producing opium for a farmer who wants to buy a plastic pair of shoes for his son once a year is not going to solve the problem in this country for example one thousand tons of opium last year in afghanistan required thirteen thousand pounds of chemical tons of chemical precursors that came from major force of pharmaceutical producers in the world afghans are producing it to survive and i'm not condoning it we should stop producing it but also the consumption should stop and also. the import of precursors should also be stemmed in my opinion money laundering and banks and all those issues should be dealt with seriously. well if he's the next us in politics police coalition forces made a mistake in afghanistan applying a military solution to a known problem. americans have failed in nation building in afghanistan and the major problem you know general mcchrystal who is now. the new commander of american troops and i

regarding the unofficial undeclared war on drugs to get rid of these notorious have been scored up in poppy and can it be feels now if the united states representatives and especially richard holbrooke the u.s. special rep to afghanistan and pakistan start delivering their regular job regarding the millions of raisins why drug lords and their own people mules immune from any prosecution and they are untouchable the world community will get it and next. prove that the us stance on the war of drugs in not is not only double standard but it's totally hypocritical and whatever they say and whatever the us straps have set or we'll say the bottom line is very simple talk is cheap the only way for the united states to restore its credibility in afghanistan is to unleash war on drugs and in that endeavor they can count one hundred percent on their regional stakeholders in afghanistan mostly china india russia iran and pakistan. now soviet era cosmonauts and american astronauts who flew the first international space mission are celebrating the flight's thirty fifth anniversary and the saudis apollo

if you simply destroy the poppy we are going to have massive social unrest on our hands and the taliban will definitely win in the country. >> sticking with afghanistan as an example--but it's not, certainly not the only one-- in afghanistan organized crime has found its way into the government itself, and that's true in other countries as well. how widespread a problem is it with organized crime and governments, the relationship becoming a little difficult to discern? >> well, if you take afghanistan once again as an example, it seems to me that it's not just the, ah, corrupt government ministers who are benefiting from the drug trade, but you've got the isi in pakistan, the inter-services intelligence agency, they get a large part of their, of their budget from the illicit narcotics traffic from afghanistan. but a lot of people have got their hand in the till there. >> vanda, do you want to comment on the question of infiltration by organized crime in government? >> another good example is mexico where, um, the mexican state for decades has a corporate arrangement with organized carte

so all the participants of the conference today will be making sure that the poppy fields are being destroyed in the country that of course drug dealers are being arrested and the financial flows are also controlled in order to reduce the country's economy sector. that's i know a good reporting there from the afghan capital kabul anti-war activist michael prized washington is desperate to negotiate with the taliban but it may be too late . it does not look like the taliban is in any position to negotiate the united states right now because the taliban is winning the war very clearly what this can be seen as is a move of desperation on behalf the united states to hillary clinton is going as that representative saying that you know this goal in afghanistan the reason that we're told we must fight and die and we'll see in afghanistan is to drive the taliban from any inch of political power because of that was to happen that another terrorist attack would be long from afghanistan on the united states that's the reason that we're giving but i while one hand what we're being told we must fight and

so all the participants of the conference today will be making sure that the poppy fields are being destroyed in the country that of course drug dealers are being arrested and the financial flows are also controlled better and in order to reduce the country's economy's black sector and that was our case a time ago reporting from the afghan capital kabul have russia's foreign minister sergey lavrov says moscow is working to support afghan security in different areas . we're committed to supporting you in efforts on stabilizing afghanistan we will continue to allow transit of international cargo and personnel to afghanistan through our territory so we're working on additional measures to keep afghan forces together with our partners we're also helping restore the afghan economy this year russia wrote off the remainder of ghana stansted eight hundred ninety one million u.s. dollars we will continue to provide humanitarian assistance. that more now on the international conference in kabul i'm joined by a political ax print from the russian a category of sciences here thank you for being here with

so all the participants the conference today will be making sure that the poppy fields are being destroyed in the country that of course drug dealers are being arrested and the financial flows are also controlled better in order to reduce the country's economies sector all right thanks very much indeed for bringing us this update from kabul where the international conference is taking place at the moment . brings us up to date here on ars he will bring you the business news with a very shortly don't go away. hungry for the full story we've got it for us the biggest issues get the human voice face to face with the news makers . every month we give you the future we help you understand how we'll get there and what tomorrow brings the best in science and technology from across russia and around the world to join us for technology update on our g. it's twenty three minutes past nine am in the russian calpol are you watching the business program on r t the far more international air show has opened in the south of england that's one of the premier events for the industry with companies coming f

never talk about that there's a enough money made in bringing precursors to this country to turn our poppies into heroin and if you don't attack that angle of this problem just producing opium for a farmer who wants to buy a plastic pair of shoes for his son once a year is not going to solve the problem in this country it does not count to sound acknowledge its role in the world drugs trade as the provider of the pm. i'm sorry there was an aircraft passing by saying please. afghanistan at least acknowledge its role as a major opium producer in the pot at the top play. in the wilds drug trains. of course afghanistan production of opium in afghanistan is and they call an economic factor but consumption and other parts of the world is also a major factor and also the production of precursor chemicals in those large quantities for example one thousand tons of opium last year in afghanistan required thirteen thousand pounds of chemical tons of chemical precursors that came from major force of the pharmaceutical producers in the world and and the consumer markets are in europe and america afghans

the un office on drugs and crime has reported a 22% fall in opium poppy cultivation in afghanistan in the last year. >> gavin shuker. >> i wish the foreign secretary well in the difficult task of bringing our troops home. what is the position of our partner nations with regard to the 2015 unconditional withdrawal date, of which the prime minister spoke? >> there is no difficulty on that among our partner nations. we have discussed it with the united states and with many other partners, and they are entirely comfortable with that position. thinking of all the meetings that i held yesterday, i do not think that any of them have raised any objection to it. >> gavin barwell. >> my right honorable friend will not be surprised to hear that many of my constituents are skeptical about our prospects of success in afghanistan. he warned both against over- optimism and over-pessimism. i appreciate the complexity of the subject, but does he think that there is the potential to provide a few simple metrics by which honorable members and the general public can measure success in implementing the pl

foreign aid project dug the canals that now feed half the world's heroin poppies and shoulder-high marijuana prime sources of taliban cash. >> lieutenant dan o'hara: ask them if they heard the rocket shot from out here earlier. >> pelley: golf company covers just a few square miles. the job is to push the taliban out and stay in place. second lieutenant dan o'hara from chicago is a platoon leader. >> o'hara: do they know we've been shot at from this compound before? >> pelley: it's his first combat tour. two of his marines have been killed. i wonder how you know the enemy from the citizens. >> o'hara: for the most part, you don't until they start shooting at you. and even then, their tactic is hit and run. they will shoot, and before you get the chance to close on them, they will run away and kind of just run back into the population. >> pelley: lieutenant colonel christian cabaniss leads the battalion. >> colonel christian cabaniss: these people have suffered for too long. we can't add to it. >> pelley: he sent golf company into battle with orders to use restraint. this was a big change fro

we ended the poppy eradication, radical change because all we were doing by eradicating the poppy seed

karzai whose brother is in the opium trade a country that predominantly benefits from the growing of poppies an the spreading of heroin around the world and that's who we're supporting. we should not be spending our money and our lives. i go to the funerals of every soldier in my district that passes. i don't want to go to more of them. i stop every soldier i see in airports and ask them where they're going, if they're going to afghan and arook, and i ask them how they're going and they say not well. they say, we should not stay there. we are not doing well. i went to a function in my district in the west side, almost entirely african-american and to a person, we need to spend our money here. and on the east side, entirely caucasian and i asked this crowd of 30, does anybody want me to go to washington and vote for more funds for afghanistan? not one. this war is lost, bring our troops home, save our money. thank you, mr. speaker. . mr. lewis: i recognize the gentleman from ohio, mr.la turet for two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. latourette

aren't we in israel or closer to israel really doing something other than wasting time protecting poppiesd more popular support and was left overwhelmingly corrupt. the american presence in afghanistan was more popular. it might have been that the united states could've played a more constructive role there. i fear now we are in the situation in which we have committed to a counterinsurgency campaign. in that it has to be owned by the local government. unless there is commitment to the people from that country, it is unlikely to work. the recent rolling stone article about stanley mcchrystal, doubt the afghan president does not know all the provinces where the u.s. military is fighting. that is very disturbing to me. we also have the strange situation in which most of the al qaeda presents we are were about is across the border in no-man's land. in land -pakistan. there's counterinsurgency fighting against the taliban. most people acknowledged the al qaeda presence today in afghanistan is very limited. you have to ask in a country that is now deeply in debt, where our economic that is pot

and the docks they got pregnant from the pounding that up with the three he gave away a lot of the poppiesto five dogs because of those copies of the dogs were euthanize yesterday after all this happened. i spoke to steve in high ashy to let you hear what he had to say about the incident. >> we don't fully understand what it really happen down there he was down there on the second floor following his 13th and he laid down next to her. we don't understand why he was in the garage. >> did it ever occurred to at any time after the show was killed to get rid of the dog. >> my wife told me to >> what's the past they've been like had he been sitting in jail think about what you could it done should've done question c,tv i don't have anybody and no down there died from them so yesterday at was kind of in shock. today's starting to dawn on me it's hard for me to sleep. i defy had to choose between my grandson and and my dog i would choose my grandson. >> now how she let me explain when i asked about the show while he did order to about one time. and at a certain time one of the tipples attack the

aren't we in israel or closer to israel really doing something other than wasting time protecting poppies in afghanistan? guest: i have grown more skeptical of the afghanistan mission. i do think that there was a commitment we made to the people of afghanistan. several years ago when this government of hamid karzai had more popular support and was left overwhelmingly corrupt. the american presence in afghanistan was more popular. it might have been that the united states could've played a more constructive role there. i fear now we are in the situation in which we have committed to a counterinsurgency campaign. in that it has to be owned by the local government. unless there is commitment to the people from that country, it is unlikely to work. the recent rolling stone article about stanley mcchrystal, doubt the afghan president does not know all the provinces where the u.s.ilitary is fighting. that is very disturbing to me. we also have the strange situation in which most of the al qaeda presents we are were about is across the border in no-man's land. in land -pakistan. there's counteri

he must fight to eradicate the poppy crop. he must stop the bribery so that farmers could get their products to market. that is a civilian challenge. that is a challenge of the afghan people. he must get electricity with the money that has been given to him down in the south. but to go into the nato hospital or to go into a hospital in germany, to see the brutality of the i.e.d. injuries, to see the lost limb, we have claimed victory. we have provided an opportunity for president karzai to lead. and so i am a proud american, again, not standing here in arrogance, but the sacrifice of reservists and others who have come and the full-time military willing to stay as long as the civilian leadership of this country demands that they stay. so i say to the moms and dads and families who sacrificed their loved ones both in terms of those who now serve us and those who are fallen in battle, we cannot thank you enough and none of us can mourn as you are mourning if you've lost a loved one. but we can say thank you by bringing our troop

karzai whose brother is in the opium trade a country that predominantly benefits fr the growing of poppies an the spreading of heroin around the world and that's who we're supporting. we should not be spending our money and our lives. i go to the funerals of every soldier in my district that passes. i don't want to go to more of them. i stop every soldier i see in airports and ask thewhere they're going, if they're going to afghan and arook, and i ask em how they're going and they say not well. they say, we should not st there. we are not doing well. i went to a function in my district in the west side, almost entirely african-american and to a person, we need to spend our money here. and on the east side, entirely caucasian and i asked this crowd of 30, does anybody want me to go to washington and vote for more funds for afghanistan? not one. this war is lost, bring our troops home, save our money. thank you, m speaker. . mr. lewis: i recognize the gentleman from ohio, mr.la turet for two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlen is recognized for two minutes. mr. latourette: i heard

in key areas when it comes to agriculture, provide alternative crops to those who are growing the poppy, and so forth, and so forth and that is all very viable. cleaning the canal structure and that is something that usa ided put into afghanistan decades ago. region's central helmand valley is so fertile is because of a usaid project was useless successful. and they remember the americans for that. all of that is founded on security, to be sure. beyond that, there were some news stories honor present way that afghanistan is not without natural blessings in a whole host of ways, an upstart -- including extraordinary mineral resources. extensive resources when it comes to lithium, iron ore, coal, 10, it has precious gems and so forth, but this all has to be -- you have to extracted to me that at the extraction industries and the line of communication and security. you also have a government structures in which that can function. there has to be a legal framework that provide sufficient incentives. but it is my hope in all seriousness that we could see what is called adventuress venture ca