>> it's true that indonesia is the largest muslim populatn in the world but we are not an islamic state respect diversity and multiculturalisms. but i have to say that maintaining diversity is not to be taken for granted. what we are doing now is to maintain the force of moderates. islam and democracy is mpatible in indonesia. that's why we want to be a model that democracy and modernity can live together in harmony. that's our ideas and our... on the one hand developing democracy, on the other hand managing moderat attitudes of our muslims. >> rose: is islam in indonesia different, say, than islam in the middle east? >> well, the teachings of his is of course, the same: but i would like to feel like this. there are always, always... extremists. extremists groups. we can find those kind of groups anywhere in the world. while we are maintaining our force, of of globalization, because of the radicalism, we tried to check those groups, not to bring in harm to others, not to (inaudible) not to commit the act of terrorism. so i could say now that islam is islam butin reality there are global