i have another question to you, porschia and to youa?ple. because i do i did apply 10 years i go -- for -- program and and i think and i people like myself. within your baptist department be good to which hearabout.!( i'm sorry. cochair hold on. control, captions are frozen would you please -- they are working now. >> of how do you mitigate that issue, in your department and going forward with alining and supporting applicants? >> i think i want to ask i'm asking you julie. thank you for the question. poshia was presenting on we recognize the ace program is not getting the number of place ams for people with disables as we would like to see. as she said we are exploring research and trying to find out what other jurisdictions are doing. like the preference points model. as an example of other strategies toute l t am. i know you gave your own example, thank you for sharing your example that like -- you applied for ace as well as roll route and challenging and your score was not as high as you would have liked. and i think that is why expl