the director of the national secular society keith porter goss wood says there's more to the official explanation of the pope's resignation. i think the dark triangle side has been an absolute catastrophe for the church it's actually lost. its authority in many parts of the world when you say that you're going to. oppose politicians trying to bring in say same sex marriage laws and you invest or your authority on that and then you loose as if as effectively happened in those important catholic countries like spain portugal brazil. and about to happen indeed in england and scotland in france then you actually lose the your authority it's more than just losing the fight so that's been a catastrophe for the church and church attendance has declined it in amazing rate and i think the child abuse scandal has been something that. benedict has never recovered from he's been involved in it personally through the c.d.f. prefecture for twenty five years and in fact he's brought more into the vatican and tried to to cover it up more and more and more so i think his his papacy will be seen as a m

the director of the national secular society keith porter goss' woods says there's more to the official explanation of the pope's resignation. i think the dark triangle side has been an absolute catastrophe for the church it's actually lost. its authority in many parts of the world when you say that you're going to. oppose politicians trying to bring in say same sex marriage laws and you invest or your authority on that and then you lose as if as effectively happened in those important catholic countries like spain portugal brazil. and about to happen indeed in england and scotland in france then you actually lose the your authority it's more than just losing the fight so that's been a catastrophe for the church and church attendance has declined it's an amazing rate and i think the child abuse scandal has been something that. benedict has never recovered from he's been involved in it personally through the c.d.f. prefecture for twenty five years and in fact he's brought more into the vatican and tried to cover it up more and more and more so i think his his papacy will be seen as a maj

tenet with his little aluminum rods to tell us that we had weapons of mass destruction in iraq to porter goss not forthcoming. can i have your word that you're going to be very forthcoming with this committee to speak truth to power, to speak truth about power, and even when it's uncomfortable where we're going to have to probe in a way that is not an easy way to go? >> admit it. there is no u.s. senator you would rather have a beer with than barbara mikulski. admit it. i don't even know if she drinks beer. but if i had to pick one senator based on today, i would pick her. senator, if that offends you and you don't drink or if you find that offensive in any way, i'm sorry. you saw senator mikulski gesturing with her hands there saying george tenet brought in little aluminum tubes to make the case about saddam hussein's supposed centrifuge tubes during the leadup to the iraq war, that was part of the whole wmd case, right? well, as far as we can tell, that never happened at any public hearing. george tenet never actually brought prop aluminum tubes in to show senators. but if george tenet actu

have either been misled, misrepresented, -- to tell us had weapons of mass destruction in iraq, to porter goss. we know the problems we've had with torture, the chair has spoken eloquently about it all the way and, quite frankly, during those questions they were evaded. they were distorted, et cetera. so my question to you is knowing your background, knowing your jesuit education, knowing what i think your values are, can i have your word that you're going to be very forthcoming with this committee to speak truth to power, to speak truth about power and even when it's uncomfortable or where we're going to have to probe in a way that's not an easy way to go? >> honesty, truthfulness was a value that was inculcated in me in my home in new jersey by my parents. it still is to this day. honesty is the best policy. none of us are perfect aboutings. i'm far from perfect, but, senator, i would commit i would be honest with this committee and do everything possible to meet your legitimate needs and requirements. as i think i have told you before. i know you are a proud senator of one of the jewels in

my colleague porter gos who -- goss, who took over the c.i.a., i have talked to him. there's a heightened thought of what to do because of potential terrorism. >> have you heard about the n.s.a. we know about the warrantless eaves dropping and the flap over that. the president seems to not only successfully not been hurt by it, but he comes out a winner because the congress has come away from it because they don't want to appear soft on security. but the n.s.a., it is said, put cookies on those computers that inquierd into the n.s.a. have you heard anything about that? >> no, i know it's cookies are put on my computer all the time. it's not only cookies we had a bill dealing with the spyware and that has not passed. >> do you think that the federal government is doing enough with this new phenomenon where a person's identity cannot only be penetrated and exhausted but also stolen? >> i think the government does not have in place the legislation. this bill has not passed that i have. we don't have the bill in place dealing with pretexting, protecting information from y