has been triple-checked and double-confirmed,b$ first by th chair of the house, intel committee, porter gosswould later head up the cia. in an op-ed goss writes, "the chairs and ranking members of the senate and house intelligence committees known as the gang of four were briefed that the cia was holding and interrogating high-value terrorists. we understood what the cia was doing. we gave the cia our bipartisan support. we gave the cia funding to carry out its activities." and now listen to what the former director of the cia's national clandestine service told sean hannity back in 2012. >> you personally briefed nancy pelosi. >> i did. >> about enhanced interrogation. >> we briefed her on 4 september 2002 about the interrogation of abu zubaydah. so we went through the techniques that were used on him, including waterboarding. >> and this wasn't just a courtesy call by the cia. u.s. law requires the cia to inform top congressional leaders about covert activities. one of the ranking members notified was west virginia senator jay rockefeller, an outspoken liberal who after the capture of khal

and that fact has been triple checked and double confirmed, first by of the house intel committee porter gossa. in an op-ed goss writes "the chairs in the ranking member of the house and senate intelligence committees known as gang of four were briefed that the cia was holding and interrogating. we gave the cia our bipartisan support. we gave the cia funding to carry out its activities." >> you personally briefed nancy pelosi? >> i did. >> about enhanced interrogation? >> we briefed here on 4 september 2002 about the interrogation of abu zabaydah. >> this wasn't just a courtesy call. u.s. law requires the cia to inform top congressional leaders about covert activities. one of the ranking members notified was west virginia senator jay rockefeller who after the capture of khalid sheikh mohammed in 2003 said we should be "very, very tough with him" and that "we have no business not getting that information." i wouldn't take anything off the table where he's concerned because this is the man who has killed hundreds and hundreds of americans over the last ten years. senator dianne feinstein, a loc

democrat report, put together by senate democrats, didn't even talk to john brennan, george tenet, porter goss or michael hayden, the former cia directors. didn't even ask what they thought are the report and dlisherred it. sounds like the same thing as "rollingstone." >> not at all. you've got to remember this report is based on cia documents, in fact, the cia was trying to prevent the senate intelligence dplt gaining access to their own documents, eric. but you know, i think you're asking the wrong question. this is a business show, and the reason america is america, the reason everybody wants to do business in this country, the reason our dollar is so valuable, is because of our system of laws. our laws are predictable and enforced and if we give that up, if we allow people to break the law, if we allow people to somehow think that american values don't matter, and that we will torture and -- >> i love how juan tries to -- breaking a law. like we're tortures people who are jaywalking, right? torturing people stealings 20ds from the local convenience store. we're talking about people who ded

former cia directors george tenet, porter goss and michael hayden pushing back against a senate intelligenceittee's conclusionses in a wall street journal op ed. the bottom line? the program did save lives. here

porter goss who later head up the cia.54h&ç the chairs and the ranking members of the house and senatehat they were holy interrogating high valued terrorists. we understood what the cia was doing we gave them our bipartisan support. they gave them the cia funding. listen to what the former director of the cia national clandestine told sean hannity in 2012. >> you personally briefed nancy pelosi. >> i did. about enhanced interrogation. i briefed them beforesrjh september 2002 about the interrogation of abu sglzubada. the techniques used by waterboarding. >> it requires the cia to inform congressional leaders about covert activity. one recognized is jay rockefeller an outspoken liberal mohammed in 2003 said we should be very, sri tough with him and we have no business not getting that information. this is a man who killed hundreds and hundreds of americans over the last few years. b about the interrogation techniques until years later. this week former cia director michael hayden got on america's newsroom. >> senator fine stin did not. the congress gang of four and the gang of 8 knew th

they also report that many cia figures from back then, porter goss, and michael hayden as well, standing behind the technique. even as the report outlines that the bush administration itself was kept in the dark by the cia, and misled. you talk about some of the psychologists, and at the outset of this operation, these interrogation techniques being practiced overseas, and the fact that even the cia right now says that they really didn't know what they were doing at the outset of this. it was kind of a mess, and they didn't have the expertise. and the psychologists they brought in had no kind of background in any progression, much less one that involved the physical abuse of prisoners. >> what's the wait of a report like this? does it hold any weight or is it opinion, is it politics? what is it? >> literally, it's 6,000 page, and i know a gallon of water is 12 pounds, i don't know how much it actually weighs. we're looking today at the distillation of those 5,000 pages down to a 5-00 page summary. everyone is digging through. we have dug through the executive summary now, and as far as t

soon as they got back from break in september, the first thing i did is i went to brief her and porter goss, the chairman of the house senate intelligence committee, we briefed her and i was not the only one who came from the agency. i had my lawyers with me. we briefed her specifically on the use of the enhanced interrogation tech nieces on abu zubaydah. she knew back in september of 2002 every one of our enhanced interrogation -- >> let me ask you specifically. did you tell her about waterboarding? did you tell her -- >> gentlemen. >> yes. >> -- about sleep deprivation? >> yes, i did. >> did you telling her about slapping, pushing into walls, all of the techniques? >> i briefed her on all of the techniques. these people were fully aware of all of the techniques given to us and approved bit office of legal counsel at justice. >> and did, just to take the example you've given us, nancy pelosi, did she ever object to the techniques that you mentioned? >> she never objected to the techniques at all. the only one that objected to any of this, and it was more of a caution, was jane harman in 20

denouncing the report's release are being joined by three former directors of the cia, george tenet, porter gosshayden. writing in "the wall street journal," they claim cia interrogations did produce actionable intelligence that led to the capture of senior operative, saved american lives, provided information that helped attack, thwart and degrade al qaeda. >> a senate report on outrage. new outrage online with online jihadists calling for retaliation against the united states. the state department is warning u.s. citizens in some places that they could face anti-american violence. and it warns that international law requires the united states to prosecute any wrong doers. special investigator ben emerson writes the individuals responsible for the criminal conspiracy revealed in today's report must be brought to justice and must face criminal penalties commensurate with the gravity of their crimes." the u.s. justice department for the record says it did not prosecute. cnn's karl penhaul live in london. karl, what's the global reaction be thus far? >> well, john, internationally, a lot of govern

know, i wasn't privy though those kind of things but i find it hard to believe that george tenet, porter gossike hayden three great patriots who served as director of central intelligence under president bush would have kept information from him. think about this. there is either two answers. these three men, who are very close to him who met with him sometimes virtually every day lied to him or mislead him. these three men in charge of the agency didn't know what was going on most vital of programs that they were intimately involved with and in my opinion knew everything about. >> 17 the information indicate, doesn't identify what the information is which is always interesting. the information we have indicates that the president was not briefed by the cia regarding specific interrogation techniques until april of 2006 and at that time the dcia goes briefed him on the seven enhanced. >> look, there are four sets of justice department legal briefs, legal rulings on what is permissible and not permissible. and the president was aware of those. look, realize this. they probably never -- the wri

former cia directors george tenet, porter goss and michael hayden pushing back against a senate intelligence committee's conclusionses in a wall street journal op ed. the bottom line? the program did save lives. here's genhayden on "america's newsroom" wrerl today. >> the report says we got nothing from this program. bill, no one involved in this program can even imagine how they got to that conclusion. these interrogations of all the detainees gave us kind of a home depot-like storage of information on al qaeda which we relied, well, we're still relying on it today. >> let's get the real story from liz cheney, former deputy assistant secretary of state and a fox news contributor. liz, great to have you on "the real story" today. >> good to be with you, thanks, gretchen. >> when you hear general hayden saying we are still working off some of the intelligence that we received from these terrorists, what do you make of it? >> you know, it's interesting because it's easy to sort of start to think about this as, you know, one side of the debate in this town right now is those who are saying that

writing in "the wall street journal," george tenet, porter goss and michael hayden and their senior deputies say it fails to reveal the obvious, it took al qaeda leadership off the battlefield and that saved lives. the former directors say the program led to the capture of al qaeda's east asia chief who was behind the attack in bali where two suicide bombers killed more than 200 people and the department of justice investigators today working for attorney general holder said they reviewed the senate investigation and found nothing new that would change their decision not to bring criminal charges against cia officers. >> it seems as though the study takes every opportunity to unfairly portray the cia in the worst light possible. presupposing improper motivations and the most detestable behavior at every turn. >> and tonight fox news confirming that the fbi and homeland security have sent a joint warning to law enforcement that the senate report could, in fact, spark violence. >> catherine, thank you. joining us now chairman of the house intelligence committee congressman mike rogers. thank y

in an op-ed in the "wall street journal," george tenant, michael hayden and porter goss insisted they suspected bin laden was plotting to blow up new york city with a nuclear weapon adding it felt like the classic ticking time bomb scenario every single day. many top republicans accuse feinstein of unleashing a political attack. >> it's clear this appears to be an attempt to rewrite history by the democrats to bash the bush administration. >> but one gop senator, john mccain, a former prisoner of war, defended the report saying torture does not work. >> i know from personal experience wroo that the abuse of prisoners will produce more bad than good intelligence. >> reporter: as for the president's claim that those harsh interrogation tactics amounts to torture, white house secretary john ernest was asked that question, he said the president still stands by that claim. >> jim acosta reporting live from. u.s. troops around the world are bracing for the threat of retaliation to the so-called terror report. the senate investigation steer bid dianne feinstein detailed the cia's brutal tact

, when the report conclude that the techniques were ineffective, i worked with george tenet and porter goss mike hayden. they testified under oath that they were effective. that they were very effective in saving lives and so, because of the way the report was created, and because the conclusion differs so starkly from the sworn testimony of these individuals, i've got some serious concerns about the validity of the report. shannon: well in rolling out the report yesterday senator dianne feinstein, outgoing chair of the senate intelligence committee said they relied on more than six million pages of documents and information and interviews that were conducted a long time ago by the cia's inspector general saying that would be better than interviewing people 10 years later, faulty memories, those kind of things. do you feel like the report would be more valid in your viewpoint and the viewpoint of other critics if they actually talked to those individual involved in these interrogations themselves, even if it is ten years later? >> no question about the because what they can do, they can com

three former cia directors, george tenet, porter goss and michael hayden agreed. in their own lengthy statment, they argued that the interrogations "led to the disruption of terrorist plots and prevented mass casualty attacks, saving american and allied lives." the former directors also said the c.i.a.'s enhanced interrogations, or e.i.t's., made possible the 2011 operation that killed osama bin laden. senator feinstein sharply disputed that claim in her speech. >> ifill: as to the decision to release the report, republican john mccain, a survivor of extensive torture as a prisoner in vietnam, strongly endorsed it today. i believe american people have a right and responsiblity to know what was done in their name. >> ifill: other republicans warned that making the executive summary public is a dangerous mistake that will prompt attacks on u.s. interests overseas. and, over the last several years, the obama administration repeatedly sought to delay the release of the summary, and it continues to withhold some documents related to the interrogations. there is no indi

again, that report includes -- concludes that the former directors of the cia, george tenet, porter gosschael hayden repeatedly inflated the value of the enhanced interrogation techniques that the cia used to get information from terror suspects in the wake of the worst terror attack ever on nation, the 9/11 attacks of 2001. again, the republican members of the intelligence committee staff did not participate. back with more in a moment. >> a lot still to talk about. see you in an how were. >> "outnumbered" starts now. >> fox news alert now. we're looking live at the senate floor. chair of the senate intelligence committee dianne feinstein is speaking after the release of a controversial report on the c.i.a.'s enhanced interrogation program. this as there are concerns against violent retaliation against americans around the globe. this is "outnumbered." here today -- today's hashtag one lucky guy, o'reilly factor jessie waters is outnumbered. >> good to see you. >> hot

why didn't you ask the people who ran the committees, porter goss said, nobody in this investigation, a former congressman, i was chairman of the committee. yeah, they told me. we could have resolved this question by simply asking the people who were there. >> you're saying the people who needed to know knew and there were no blind spots about the cia. >> yeah. >> the last question is this, you're in the report. and you are used as part of the cia machine that was spinning what this program was about to the media to make fit something that it wasn't. is that a fair charge, were you a spine-meister for the cia selling us on a program we didn't really understand? >> let me put you on the hot seat. how long has your show been on the air? >> a year and change. >> you guys doing okay? >> better than that, mudd. >> why are you spinning me? i believed in the program. i believed we were crushing al qaeda, crushing them with human source operations, with signals intercepts, with working with foreign security services, the paramilitary and military operation in afghanistan against the taliban

former cia directors michael hayden, porter goss and george tenant had the op-ed responding to this report saying they believe this intelligence coming out of this interrogation program helped lead to the killing of osama bin laden. there's one passage in the op-ed where they talk about the fact that in the weeks and months after 9/11 it was like a ticking time bomb scenario that they were afraid that osama bin laden was plotting with pakistani scientists to develop a nuclear weapon that could be set off in manhattan. some it's in that vane that these former cia directors are saying, look, this is why we did what we did. and it's interesting to hear what the president had to say about this yesterday, john and michaela, when he was doing the interviews with the spanish language stations univision and tell mundo, originally supposed to be about immigration but they ended up asking him about the torture report. the president really sort of saying on a couple different occasions that you have to z goes back and look at the time frame where all of this took place. he was characterizing this int

george tenet, porter goss, directors of the c.i.a., they were not interviewed and jose rodriguez was not interviewed either. >> let us know what you think on facebook. it is the question of the day. do you think the enhanced interrogation program was necessary to keep our nation safe? >> there is a guy in the f.b.i. who is very respected, he doesn't think the enhance of interrogation did work and that is fine. but there is another element to this, and that is the safety and security of our country, of our methods and practices and from those people who implemented it and those in harm's way today. >> i ask anyone to watch the tapes from 9/11 and understand the water boarding of k.s.m. >> we're all riled up about that. you probably are too. e-mail us. in the meantime ten minutes after the top of the hour. heather nauert has headlines. >> great to see you guys today. folks riled up in california. protesters in berkeley, california, shutting down streets, blocking traffic for a third night in a row. take a look. [chanting] >> shut it down! >> shouting about eric garner, upset about the

who was in there along with nancy pelosi. >> right. >> senators porter goss and nancy pelosi from briefed on the water boarding. was she briefed on all the enhanced interrogation techniques at that time? >> yeah. chapter and verse. all of them. in detail. the sleep deprivation. all of it. as was jay rockefeller, i should mention, joe. you know senator rockefeller has been out there decrying the morality of the program. he was briefed. he was part of that original gang of eight. and the point is none of them expressed any concern, opposition. the sense from all of them in those early days is this all you're doing. >> john, i wanted to ask you that question because i have from my time on capitol hill have quite a few contacts with people that were involved from the very beginning, and i kept asking did nancy pelosi, did jay rockefeller, did they ever object, did they ever ask any questions? and to a person they all said what you just said is that no they didn't object and then they followed up by saying is this all you need? and you're saying the same thing that i've heard time and

with that obviously you've got the people running the agency then, for example, george tenant and porter gossnd general hayden, as well as people in the white house who wrote legal opinions justifying something that vitals geneva conventions up to and including the president and the vice president. you know, vice president cheney came out and he still defenders it, even though it is torture, which interestingly enough is not a word that brennan used yesterday, which in fact it was. >> it's also not a word that even senator feinstein that used repeatedly was not used in the report. it has also not been used recently by president obama. is that intentional? >> well, i think it is, because president obama did use it in the campaign and when he came into the white house, signed a directive ending waterboarding saying it was torture. we need to be honest about it with the american people and people around the world if we want to get this horrible episode behind us and regain our moral standing, which is really the best thing we have to protect our security. >> would it have been different if we ha

the cia you have "the wall street journal" with their peace, directory former cia george tenet, porter goss debbie director john mclaughlin, and they write in there -- "the majority left out something credible -- something critical to understand the program context. it was formatted in the aftermath of the 3000 people on 9/11. this was a time when we had evidence that al qaeda was planning a second wave of attacks on the u.s., certain knowledge that osama bin laden had been meeting with scientists from pakistan and wanted nuclear weapons. hard evidence that al qaeda was trying to manufacture anthrax. it felt like the classic ticking time bomb scenario every single day." that timeemember well. i was working as a senate staff member and we were all evacuated, and i remember the in -- the intense fear and concern that there would be another strike. so i understand what they were saying. that lasted for a short time. i think everyone else came to their senses and realized they had to operate legally and there were ways to get intelligence that did not require this kind of torture. it is interes

first, why didn't you ask the people who ran the committees, porter goss, the former chairman, later in this investigation asked me, a former congressman, i was chairin' ma of the committee. yeah, they told me. we could have resolved this question by asking the people who were there. >> you're saying that the people who needed to know knew, and there were no blind spots about the cia. >> yes. >> the last question is this then. you're in the report. and you are used as part of the cia machine that was spinning what this program was about to the media to make it something that it wasn't. is that a fair charge? yes. >> were you a spinemeister for the cia selling us on a program we didn't really understand? >> let me put you on the hot seat, chris. how long has "new day" been on the air? >> about a year and change. >> are you guys do'ing okay? >> we're doing better than that, mudd. >> why are you spinning me? i believed in the program. i believed they were crushing al qaeda, we were crushing them with human source operations with signals intercepts, with working with security services, t

in an op-ed in the "wall street journal," george tenant, michael hayden and porter goss said they suspectedhat al qaeda was planning to blow up new york city with a nuclear weapon. adding that it felt like a ticking time bomb scenario every day. many top republicans accuse feinstein of unleashing a political attack. >> this appears to be an attempt to rewrite history by the democrats, to back the bush administration. >> but one gop senator, john mccain, a former prisoner of war defended the report saying torture does not work. >> i know from personal experience, that the abuse of prisoners will produce more bad than good intelligence. >> now the president was careful not to label these harsh interrogation tactics crimes. and so far, the justice department has given no indication that it's going to prosecute former c.i.a. officials for what happened. and asked whether or not the president still stands by his claim that these interrogation tactics amounted to torture, a top white house official said yes. chris? >> that gets into the issue of the legal clearance that was given. and two version