officials are trying to wait for those answers to come from porton down before they say anything, soesting is crucial and they are hoping for an initial assessment this evening. gordon perera, thank you. police investigating the deaths of 17 babies at the countess of chester hospital have extended their investiagation to a second hospital. liverpool women's nhs foundation trust say there is no suggestion that any of its patients came to any harm. a 28—year—old nurse, lucy letby is being questioned on suspicion of murdering eight babies and attempting to murder another six. judith moritz reports. lucy letby once said she enjoyed nursing babies, as she could see them progress and support their families. now she is suspected of murdering eight infants and trying to kill another six. today, police searches have continued at the nurse's home. forensic officers searching the house and taking items away for examination. detectives are still questioning the 28—year—old about the alleged murders and attempted murders. police say that their investigation is focusing on what happened to 32 babi

could be get some word from porton down about the results? biomedical samples, porton down will be able to assess them pretty quickly, i would think, and we should have an answer relatively soon. tomorrow, probably, but possibly tonight. thank you very much forjoining us. and forgiving us much forjoining us. and forgiving us your analysis there in amesbury. thank you very much. hamish de bretton—gordon. the conservative chief whip has met around fifty of the party's brexit—supporting mps to try to reassure them about the new customs arrangements plan to be discussed by the cabinet on friday. ahead of the talks at chequers, the leading tory brexiteer, jacob rees—mogg, warned that it would be a "serious mistake" for britain to remain in regulatory alignment with brussels, on the trade in goods, after it leaves the eu. but that is just one of the elements in this entire process. owen paterson is conservative mp for north shropshire and is a member of pro—brexit group leave means leave — he joins me from westminster. good of you to join us. could

tests are being carried out on an unknown substance at the porton down chemical weapons lab, after two people fell criticially ill in wiltshire. charlie rowley and dawn sturgess were found unconscious on saturday. further testing is now ongoing to establish the substance which led to these patients becoming ill. at this stage, it is not yet clear if a crime has been committed. police are continuing to question a nurse, after arresting her on suspicion of murdering eight babies, and attempting to murder another six. new footage is released showing the children trapped in caves in thailand. rescuers say they won't try to bring them out until it's safe, and that could be months. also this hour: the government puts forward new proposals on how it will manage fishing in british waters after brexit. ministers say that from 2020, the new plans would allow a fairer allocation of fishing opportunities. but others are warning of new barriers, to the eu market, for british fish. more than 2a million people watched england finally win a world cup penalty shoot out, making it the most—watched five

the german program which is that porton down and told us in absolutely no uncertain terms that this was a military grade. not they knew wage law it is not the business of a port and on the i denied it there whether it's even possible for them to identify the origin. they've got all the roads lead to the. political groups putin's community the way he was the one hundred thirty six yes i think the comparison with one hundred thirty six is is certainly right. some said it was a symbol of the poet kenyan president ancestral dislike of the british empire which churchill had been such a fervent defender. looking . forward to. walking through. life expectancy in africa in the stillness in me is that country has entered the global economic system. now after years under the control of islamic state terrorists the syrian city of raka was liberated back in twenty seventeen the paid a heavy price for liberation even now streets are still strewn with bodies but i guess the of investor gets. raca was a thriving city once prosperous rich and then isis came and turned it into its capital they leveled i

they knew what it is not the business of a porton down the i dunno i don't know whether it's even possible for them to identify the origin in all seriousness it's an interesting narrative we have going here last britain's accusations with seemingly founded on a highly likely assessment therefore it's highly likely that it's highly likely that it's all russia's fault the decision taken by the russian government to deploy. on march the fourth was reckless and callous there is no cause of alternative explanation to the events in march other than the russian state was responsible we have already seen multiple explanations from state sponsored russian media regarding this latest incident we can anticipate further disinflation from the kremlin as we saw following the source we've come full circle they sat there for months ago making the same claims something happens accuse russia arguments collapse then quiet something happens again straight away they accuse russia who can guess what comes next. thailand's navy seals have confirmed four boys have now been rescued from the group of twelve and the

they knew what age law it is not the business of a porton down the i denied it and whether it's even possible for them to identify the origin in all seriousness it's an interesting narrative we have going here last time britain's accusations which seemingly founded on a highly likely assessment therefore it's highly likely that it's highly likely that it's all russia's fault the decision taken by the russian government to deploy. on march the fourth was reckless and callous there is no cause of alternative explanation to the events in march other than the russian state was responsible we have already seen multiple explanations from state sponsored russian media regarding this latest incident we can anticipate further disinflation from the kremlin as we saw following the souls were attacked we've come full circle they sat there for months ago making the same claims something happens accuse russia arguments collapse then quiet something happens again straight away they accuse russia guess what comes next i think too much of the media seems to believe that its national duty is patriotic

chemical laboratory porton down nor o.p.c. w. experts could confirm that the nerve agent was produced in russia still did not stop london from pointing the finger in moscow. it's highly likely that russia was responsible we do russia culpable culpable culpable for the attempted murder but is case is culpable our quarrel is with putin's kremlin and we think it overwhelmingly likely that it was his decision russia have consistently denied any involvement with the attack on the screwballs insisting that russia destroyed its nerve agent a stockpile while other states have also developed novacek moscow also rejected the notion that it had any motive to target the former spy saying he had no value after the swap and saying it would have been quote nonsense for russia to carry out such an attack ahead of russia's presidential elections and the football world cup. however a lot of twitter users are far from being serious while commenting on the new nova chalk case here to talk addiction in four months over the snow but your concern is br

hospital in wiltshire. having been exposed to what police say is an unknown substance. substance at porton downmical weapons research laboratory. weapons research laboratory. we will be live in amesbury with the latest. be live in amesbury with the latest. murder another six. in a flooded cave in thailand as rescuers stage a rehearsal. england's world cup roller—coaster path to last night's victory. who beat switzerland yesterday. good afternoon and welcome to the bbc news at one. in wiltshire on saturday. describe as an unknown substance. at the nearby porton down chemical weapons research laboratory. the couple are now critically ill in salisbury district hospital. night when this first broke, and when they were taken to hospital. when they were taken to hospital. to what's gone on here, we simply don't know. don't know. they are keeping an open mind about all of this. all of this. police, especially given the recent events in salisbury. events in salisbury. the property was today's sealed off by police. by police. they are now investigating in amesbury and the surrounding area. amesbury and

the german program which is that porton down and told us in absolutely no uncertain terms that this wasa military grade. they knew what age law it is not the business of important on the i denied it and whether it's even possible for them to identify the origin. they got. the rods like to work. the way it was the mountain thirty six. years i think the comparison with nine hundred thirty six is is certainly right. some said it was a symbol of the poet kenyan president's dislike of the british empire which had been such a fervent defend. meanwhile the u.k. government's cobra emergency committee has been holding a meeting over a poisoning incident in amesbury a woman along with her partner were exposed to the navi choked nerve agent and she died on sunday evening we discussed the issue with political commentator david vance to resume a government seems to have been a focus of obsession a boy trying to glean is such incidents such as the previous one for example on russia well i think that's the kind of a distraction and i think at this point in time to reason they would rather talk abut an

they knew what age law it is not the business of porton down the i didn't i don't know whether it's even possible for them to identify the origins in all seriousness it's an interesting narrative we have going here last time britain's accusations which seemingly founded on a highly likely assessment therefore it's highly likely that it's highly likely that it's all russia's fault the decision taken by the russian government to deploy these missiles on march the fourth was reckless and callous there is no cause of alternative explanation to the events in march other than the russian state was responsible we have already seen multiple explanations from state sponsored russian media regarding this latest incident we can anticipate further disinclination from the kremlin as we saw following the source we attack we've come full circle they sat there for months ago making the same claims something happens accuse russia arguments collapse then quiet something happens again straight away they accuse russia guess what comes next i think too much of the media seems to believe that it's national du

said there's no doubt we have not verified the precise source so to be fully you are not able at porton down to say where it is from we haven't yet been able to do that. this. is that. what you are talking. about the right but. life expectancy in africa has risen the stormers for me is that country has entered the global economic system. but like you. after years under the control of islamic state terrorists the syrian city of rocco was liberated back in two thousand and seventeen but it paid a heavy price our colleagues from r.t. arabic obtained exclusive video of rockets showing that even now the streets are strewn with bodies investigates. raca was a thriving city once prosperous rich and then isis came and turned it into its capital they leveled it the u.s. led coalition leveled it ninety percent and blasted to ruin. and locals those that survived still picking up the pieces what's thing and i personally remember this from mosul is the bodies hundreds thousands of them still rotting under the rubble the smell is indescribable and it permeates everything especially bad when it's houghton

we know that the tests conducted at porton down have shown that both individuals were exposed to the same type of novacek used to poison. in march offices are still trying to work out how the pair were exposed to the same live agent although tests have confirmed that they touched a contaminated item with the hands. are teens anastasio checking and joins us live with more on this now tell us what more do we know at this point. well of jackie the story certainly taken a very serious new turn with the news of the passing away of dawn sturgis one of the two people that was affected in this so-called second poisoning incident she was forty four years old and she had passed away on sunday evening and now that this has happened it's clear to understand that the investigation is going to be expected to be much more vigorous and certainly stronger language is going to be needed than the one we've seen so far along the lines of most likely we will we can clearly expect to have really specific answers from british officials investigating this however while the investigation is still continuing

russia how did you manage to find it out so quickly look at the the evidence we the people from porton down they were absolutely categorical i asked the guy so i said are you sure and he said there's no doubt we have not verified the precise source so to be clear you're not able at porton down to say where it is from we haven't yet been able to do that i was being very clear i thought i was being very clear to. the german program which is that. told us in. no uncertain terms that this was a military grade. they knew what it is not the business of important and i don't know whether it's even possible for them to identify the origin in all seriousness it's an interesting narrative we have going here lars style britain's accusations which seemingly founded on a highly likely assessment therefore it's highly likely that it's highly likely that it's all russia's fault the decision taken by the russian government to deploy. on march the fourth was reckless and. there is no cause of alternative explanation to the events in march other than the russian state was responsible we have already seen mul

small bottle was recovered during searches of charlie rose's house in amesbury it was taken to porton down for tests following those tests scientists have now confirmed to us that the substance contained within the bottle is novacek please continue to investigate whether there's any link between the amesbury incident and the script poisoning in seoul's brain back in march house in amesbury where the chalk was found is still cordoned off this morning officials say there is no wider threat to the public we heard from dave cullen professor of organic chemistry at cornell university he says the fact that are highly toxic agent was apparently kept in a bottle is surprising. it's impossible to make a connection and there been no data presented so you're at the mercy of the authorities assuring us what they found and what they know what it is and you know how bottle ended up and there was as and that matter whether or not they actually were poisoned by not which uk if you're allowed to get down to find it suspicious that there carding no overt check around in in what's called a bottle i would thi

now you would have heard of porton down in relation to this script poisoning because that is the lab the government lab that's just ten miles away from amesbury that identified the substance used against the script files as military grade of agent and in another sign that this could be a very serious incident we've also heard from london's metropolitan police that counter-terror unit is now helping police with the investigation given the recent events and so was gri officers from the counterterrorism network working jointly with colleagues from police regarding the incident in amesbury as police have stated they are keeping an open mind as to the circumstances surrounding the incident and we'll update the public as soon as regularly as possible. just like you heard in that police statement that there are real similarities between these two cases at least from where. this involves two individuals they've become critically ill not far from seoul's very they've been taken to so is pretty district hospital that's the same place where gay and script. we're treated and also for a suspe

retrieved from the house of the survivor and the labels that the nearby military laboratory at porton down on wednesday july eleventh a small bottle was recovered during searches of charlie rose house in amesbury it was taken to porton down for tests following those tests scientists have now confirmed to us that the substance contained within the bottle is novacek. police are investigating whether there's any link between the m. spree incident and the script pall poisoning in salzburg back in march authorities earlier said they don't believe a link has per to be struck down by the substance were deliberately targeted the area any mystery around the heist where the nova truck was found is still cordoned off officials say there is not believed to be any wider threat to the public when we talk show host john gone the lack of progress in the two british investigations is surprising. i think it's fascinating that expression for months to find out nothing and not arrest anyone after boris johnson was so clear in his condemnation of president putin and his accusation it was the russians was doing

how did you manage to find it out so quickly look at the the evidence from the people from from porton down they were absolutely categorical and i asked the guy so i said are you sure and he said there's no doubt we have not verified the precise source so to be clear you're not able at porton down to say where it is from we haven't yet been able to do that i was being very clear i thought i was being very clear to. the german program which is that. told us in. no uncertain terms that this was a military grade. they knew what it is not the business of important and i don't know whether it's even possible for them to identify the origin in all seriousness it's an interesting narrative we have going here last britain's accusations which seemingly founded on a highly likely assessment therefore it's highly likely that it's highly likely that it's all russia's fault the decision taken by the russian government to deploy. on march the fourth was reckless and callous there is no cause of alternative explanation to the events in march other than the russian state was responsible we have already see

chemical laboratory of porton down in nor o.p.c. w. experts could confirm that the nerve agent was produced in russia still that did not stop london from pointing the finger at moscow is highly likely that russia was responsible we do russia culpable culpable culpable for the attempted murder case is culpable our quarrel is with putin's kremlin and we think overwhelmingly you likely that it was his decision or russia has consistently denied any involvement with the attack on the script insisting that russia destroyed its nerve agent stockpile other states have also developed novacek moscow also rejected the notion that it had any motive to target the former spy saying he had no value after the swap and saying that it would have been quote nonsense for russia to carry out such an attack ahead of russia's presidential elections and the football world cup legal and media analyst and lionel believes that the question of motive remains unclear in this case the thing that people want to know in addition to the identification of the particula

interesting to see the amesbury is very queer the couple fellers very close to porton down that's the lab that identified the nerve agent to the script an investigation also just thirteen kilometers from the souls bree as well that's where the former russian double agent and his daughter were poisoned and what the u.k. calls government with the government says was a type of not a chop now police are at a loss as to how the latest victims could have come into contact with this substance yet for months later to the day from the scriptural affair also officers of no answers as to what the latest victims might have in common with the former spy this incident comes out of the government reportedly spent millions of pounds decontaminating souls return to the locals are understandably worried. ten year old sudden relief victory two seconds away he prays are here with us for so yeah. we know it's a major incident on your doorstep you know residential area it's. you just could not imagine this happening all you want to know is are you safe do you have to do anything if your family going to be

we know that the tests conducted at porton down have shown that both individuals were exposed to theused to poison sergei skripal and his daughter yulia in march. a number of sites the pair visited have been cordoned off as a precaution. last week the chief medical officer for england said that the risks to the wider public remains low. but the people in the local area should not pick up any strange items, such as needles, syringes or unusual containers, given that the source of the contamination has not yet been found. this advice remains unchanged. the most important thing going forward, after this very serious security incident is that we limit speculation, we limit guesswork and we have the most thorough investigation, which leads where the evidence takes it. the sad death of dawn sturgess deserves no less. last thursday, the home secretary was unable to confirm whether the novichok used in this instance can be attributed to the same batch as was used on the attack on the skripals. can he confirm today whether or not it is going to be possible to establish that from testing and,

the nerve agent was identified in porton down near amesbury — the same place used to identify the novichokd in march. tonight the metropolitan police counterterrorism unit confirmed the latest findings. following the detailed analysis of those samples, we can confirm the man and woman have been exposed to the nerve agent novichok, which has been identified as the same nerve agent that contaminated both julia and sergei skripal. the latest update we have from hospital is that both patients remain in a critical condition. for the past four months, salisbury has been a scene of massive decontamination, after the poisoning of sergei and julia skripal and a police sergeant. a number of sites were handed back to the public, but the cleanup is still going on in the places with the highest concentrations. everyone had assumed that cleanup would be the end of the contamination story, so the revelation tonight there is a fresh nerve agent incident will come as a shock to many people. although public health england have stressed again today that the risk to the public remains low. wiltshere police sa

in being carried out on an unknown substance at the porton down of chemical weapons lab. two people fell critically ill in yorkshire. hello this is bbc news with vicki young — the headlines... tests are being carried out on an unknown substance at the porton down chemical weapons lab, after two people are criticially ill in hospital in wiltshire. charlie rowley and dawn sturgess were found unconscious on saturday. further testing is ongoing to establish what the substance was. get this stage it is not clear if a crime was committed. police are continuing to question a nurse, after arresting her on suspicion of murdering eight babies — and attempting to murder another six. new footage is released showing the children trapped in caves in thailand — rescuers say they won't try to bring them out until it's safe — and that could be months. the government puts forward new proposals on how it will manage fishing in british waters after brexit — which it says will allow a fairer allocation of fishing opportunities. in a moment it will be time for sportsday but first a look at wha

porton down analysed the sample and confirmed it was novichok, the same substance that also poisonedy consistent, they large —— last for a long time. these last four months, possibly several months. it was designed to over match nato defence of chemical capabilities, it is very difficult to detect and why it has taken so long in salisbury to decontaminate is that the sample every area, check it in the lab and then come back. once we know where it is is relatively easy decontaminate. as the couple fight for their lives, more disturbing developments are coming to light. for people here, this sequence of events is all too familiar. well, these latest events in and around salisbury remind us that it has gone quiet there as far as the investigation into the skripal‘s poisoning is concerned. so, what intelligence do we have as to who was behind it? mark urban has been following the skripal case very closely. here is his report on what we know, and what we don't. in the months since the salisbury poisoning, whittle has leaked out of the police investigation. —— little. a slow death at, lead

he said there's no doubt we have not verified the precise source so typically you're not able at porton down to say where it is from we haven't yet been able to do that i was being very clear i thought i was being very clear to. the german program which is that porton dowden told us in absolutely no uncertain terms that this was a military grade. not that they knew wage law it is not the business of important on the i denied it and they whether it's even possible for them to identify the origins. they got. the roads lead to the. putins community the way it was the mountain thirty six. years i think the comparison with nine hundred thirty six is is certainly right. some said it was a symbol of the poet kenyan president and dislike of the british empire which had been such a fervent defender. the u.k. home secretary has been also briefing parliament on the latest incident in amesbury officials still can't say whether the agent came from the same batch as the one used in march poisoning of a former russian double agent and his daughter and the nearby city of souls very. used in this incident is

said there's no doubt we have not verified the precise source so to be clear you're not able at porton down to say where it is from we haven't yet been able to do that i was being very clear i thought i was being very clear to. the german program which is that porton dowden told us in absolutely no uncertain terms that this was a military grade. they knew what age law it is not the business of a port and on the i denied it and they whether it's even possible for them to identify the origin. of. the gold. the roads lead to the. putins going the way it was the mountain thirty six. years i think the comparison with nine hundred thirty six is is certainly right. some said it was a symbol of the poet kenyan president's dislike of the british empire which had been such a fervent defend meanwhile the u.k. government's a cobra emergency committee has been holding a meeting over a poisoning incident and aims very woman along with her partner were supposed to the not be chopped nerve agent she died on sunday evening we discussed this issue with political commentator david lance is to resume a governm

some of the substances have been sent to porton down.ing. police were called to this scene along with ambulances and fire crews. residents tell us that they saw officers wearing hazard material and masks and suits as they went into the property but as you can see, there is no sign of that. that is according, but people living in those flats. then add a couple of officers here but that‘s all we have seen. there is a charge and a park and chemists nearby, which it is thought this man and woman had visited in the hours before they became unwell. they have been checked by police and sealed off but the met and wiltshire police are saying this is a major incident. it seems porton down is where this substance is being investigated but they say they are doing everything as you would expect until they know what it is they‘re dealing with. they initially thought it was some sort of drugs contamination like heroin or crack cocaine, which might be the case, but they are doing for the tests to establish what it is. is there any information about the

a small bottle was recovered during searches of charlie rose house in amesbury it was taken to porton down for tests following those tests scientists have now confirmed to us that the substance contained within the box who is novacek the police are investigating whether there is any link between the two incidents authorities previously said though that they do not believe the latest purred to be struck down by the substance were deliberately targeted the area in amesbury around the house where the novacek was find is still cordoned off officials say there is not believed to be any wider threat to the public but we spoke to radio talk show host john gaunt about the investigation into the poisonings he's eighty count understand why so little progress appears to have been made. i think it's fascinating that it's taken them four months to find out nothing and not arrest anyone after boris johnson was so clear in his condemnation of president putin and his accusation it was the russians was doing it we've also been spun a story that people who saw the prius safe well how can they be safe if l.a

how did you manage to find it out so quickly i look at the the evidence when the people from from porton down they were absolutely categorical and i asked the guy myself i said are you sure and he said there's no doubt we have not verified the precise source so to be clear you're not able at porton down to say where it is from we haven't yet been able to do that i was being very clear i thought i was being very clear to. the german program which is that. told us in absolutely no uncertain terms that this was a military grade. they knew what it is not the business of important i mean i don't i don't know whether it's even possible for them to identify the origin in all seriousness it's an interesting narrative we have going here lars style britain's accusations which seemingly founded on a highly likely assessment therefore it's highly likely that it's highly likely that it's all russia's fault the decision taken by the russian government to deploy these missiles on march the fourth was reckless because there is no possible alternative explanation to the events in march other than the russian

retrieved from the house of the survivor and that it was analyzed at the nearby military laboratory at porton down on wednesday july eleventh a small bottle was recovered during such as of charlie rose house in amesbury it was taken to porton down for tests following those tests scientists have now confirmed to us that the substance contained within the box always novacek. police are investigating whether there is any link between the amesbury incident and the script called poisoning in salisbury md back in march the area names vary around the house where the number truck was found is still cordoned off fishel say there is not it is not believed to be any wider threat to the public we heard from dave call him who is a professor of organic chemistry at cornell university he says it is impossible to make any connection between this alls brienne amesbury cases it's impossible to make a connection or there been no data presented so we are at the mercy of the authorities assuring us what they found and what they know what it is and you know how bottle ended up in there. and that matter whether or not t

military's porton down research to badri located halfway between m. p to shop reports. the couple remain in a critical condition at seoul's priest district hospital but police and counterterrorism office is investigating the second poisoning say it's unlikely they were deliberately targeted but were caught up in the fallout from the previous attack the couple don't sturgis and charlie rally both in their forty's collapse in a house in a mystery twelve kilometers from salt break officials at porton down who had it done to fight the nerve agent as novacek say it's designed to be highly persistent five sites are now cordoned off as they trace the couple's movements before they succumb to the poison. a park pharmacy house and church are still being searched for any trace of the nerve agent police urging people who also visited these areas to wash their clothes and take precautions britain's counter-terror chief warned that there still remains a low level risk to the general public but through it all the people of soulsby remain surprisingly upbeat i don't think it's fair in

officials at porton down who had it done to fight the nerve agent as novacek say it's designed to be highly persistent five sites are now cordoned off as they trace the couple's movements before they succumb to the poison a park pharmacy house and church are still being searched for any trace of the nerve agent police urging people who also visited these areas to wash their clothes and take precautions britain's counter terror chief warned that there still remains a low level risk to the general public but through it all the people of soulsby remain surprisingly upbeat i don't think it's fair in to anybody that we still buzzing as you can see is a shame that it's happened who is it what is it does anybody really know it's just unfortunate soulsby just picking itself up again and now it looks as though we're back to square one the british government has always held russia responsible for the attack on the script and the interior secretary has asked them to come forward and explain what exactly happened the eyes of the world are currently in russia not least because of the world cup it