have that opportunity to see him first of all, but it's hard to describe it as romantic but -- pos katella is because i thought was funny i started laughing when you discussed it in there. >> guest: my husband took one of the humvees and we drove over to this vara area that was the front line of kuwait where we were and we looked out into the desert and both realize kind of the absurdity of the situation of sitting there looking over into iraq and what was coming to be in front of us knowing that we were soon going to cross that threshold into iraq was really interesting and like something out of the movie. it's a very surreal. >> host: when your husband left i have to admit that you were in 29 palms and you don't give it a very good rating by the way. i'm out there in orange county and it's just about an hour and a half to the east. of course we'd camp pendleton to the south and you weren't really nice to california talking about the desert but it's a great place because that's where we can put a devotee of the that can train in more like circumstances with your going to see an iraq or af