the chinese government posco and policies, positions, and preferences are known. what is more pernicious as the indirect way to try to shape our policy makers on that threat in ways that the policy makers are not aware of. >> you mentioned some of those in the talk, can you go beyond that to talk about ways that shyness weeks to assert this kind of influence? if you have a question about whether the chinese use of this or that tactic think about a multiple-choice where the answer is all of the above and you will usually be right. one of the threats we are concerned about is what i would call the more indirect, but equally significant influence through middlemen. are aample if you governor, state senator, or mayor you are probably sophisticated enough to know that the representative from a chinese embassy comes in and tells you you have it all wrong about hong kong and taiwan, to at least be a little bit on your guard and take it with a grain of salt. if that person who comes in and talks to you is someone you have known for years, maybe a prominent donor or some b