. >> lackinder pal, poshada, samir pradhan. chairperson nolan: any of those folks here? >> this is roshan batar. i do not know the use of speaking here. the last time we spoke, nothing happened. it is starting again. if we are just wasting our time, i do not know. mta has to get together and find out whether we are independent or employees. award us like your employees. 25 years later, what do we end up with? we end up with a crippled leg. we will be out of a job. if you want to control us, cap companies like yellow cab -- cab companies like yellow cab -- are you with us or are you with them? you are not taking our side. we are the ones who are solving you. we are the ones taking you to the hospital and the airport. >> is lackwinder pal here? pesada? steven caddis, kile gebrhal, aileg gashan. >> my name is samir padan. no electronic waybills. i am paying $15 an hour to be here. i do not know if mta is going to pay for me or i have to pay for myself. the other thing is the 5% charge. then the company can pay me to% to send the money to my account. -- can pay me 2% to send