and that came from posoa.at possibility. >> so when people write about you, are they going to say he follows in the tradition of, he was -- >> of who. >> who, i'm asking you. >> i have no idea. >> in other words, you look at richard serra, who really went off in a brand-new direction. >> i think, yeah, that's right. i think. >> but you were influenced, i think by -- >> yeah, but i was also influenced by paulica newman. >> hmmmm. >> probably by paulic a lot. >> how so. >> in terms of process. in terms of the verb list, in terms of how you go about doing what you do. you know, you can talk about the how and the what, when you get to the why it gets a little more difficult. and that's something that no one ever talks about. louis talked about it but never stopped talked about it. but artists don't talk about the why. and that's hard to talk about because the y has to do with motivation but it probably also has to do with competition with your forebearers, hoss who came before, so if you ask me how do i fit into t