that is, if a you are a tenant and have 10 percent, 5 percent-any interest other than possessry intrest, ownership interest than that means that you have a stake and you ought not be able to benefit from the program. the second isue is, if a family member-say your father or mother or close family member is a owner of the property and you are the tenant, that also should be looked at and define what means family relationship to what extent and- >> right. i think the point that regina was making is that it may be a policy decision for the commission to decide what constituted related. a father renting commercial space to a child may be a easier case to say they related and konet qualify. what if i rent space to my 4th cousins brotheren in law does that qualify as a relationship? >> is there precedent in any other regulations that determine what is a family relationship? >> that is something i haven't looked at for today. >> we know that shell corporations and there are all kinds of financial constructs which help hide relationships of owners and so i don't know-we are not experts in that.