and the other fact is they had used guns in a way rather than just hunting possum. >> well, then, before the -- when world war i had started, the idea of recruiting black soldiers was disputed by white congressman from the south had said, wait a minute, whoa, you're going to train black people to shoot guns? whoa, let's not do that. >> general pershing didn't want to do it. >> right. but i have a letter in the book from a black soldier who comes back to arkansas, and he writes that he comes home, and he's sneered at by white businessmen who didn't go fight, by the way, and he's so disgusted that he moves to st. louis, and he said, i felt safer in the trenches than i did in arkansas. and that was a common -- >> let's do about two more questions. >> okay, sorry. yep. >> i appreciate what you said about something different happening in 1919 that, um, seemed to indicate that there was an awakening and, you know, thicks started -- things started generating, but i'm wondering how you came to the conclusion that it was black america waking up and they should be fighting back instead of white am