_ document which the post office then sends to fujitsu to _ document which the post as miss dobbin has said, does _ request. yes. the position, as miss dobbin has said, does move - request. yes. the position, as miss dobbin has said, does move on - request. yes. the position, as miss| dobbin has said, does move on from this. we can explore with other witnesses, looking at other documents, how the amendments to this form were made by whom, and when. �* . �* , this form were made by whom, and when. �* ., �* , ., this form were made by whom, and when. �* ., �*, ., , ., when. but that's how it started, as a fu'itsu when. but that's how it started, as a fujitsu created _ when. but that's how it started, as a fujitsu created document. - when. but that's how it started, as a fujitsu created document. yes. i a fujitsu created document. yes. richts. a fujitsu created document. yes. rights- thank — a fujitsu created document. yes. rights. thank you, _ a fujitsu created document. yes. rights. thank you, i _ a fujitsu created document. yes. rights. thank you, i hope - a fujitsu c

_ was given from the post office to fujitsu to — was given from the post office to fujitsu to supportitsu to support the prosecutions. said in my opening point— fujitsu to support the prosecutions. said in my opening point that - fujitsu to support the prosecutions. said in my opening point that we i fujitsu to support the prosecutions. | said in my opening point that we did support— said in my opening point that we did support the — said in my opening point that we did support the post— said in my opening point that we did support the post office _ said in my opening point that we did support the post office and - said in my opening point that we did support the post office and was - support the post office and was prosecutions _ support the post office and was prosecutions and _ support the post office and was prosecutions and we _ support the post office and was prosecutions and we did - support the post office and was prosecutions and we did give i support the post office and was i prosecutions and we did give them information— prosecutions and we did give them information to _ pr

received reveal— debriefings that you have received reveal why fujitsu didn't alert post office _ reveal why fujitsu didn't alert post office tot— elements of the evidence that we have got is that it was delayed and i have got is that it was delayed and i don't _ have got is that it was delayed and i don't know why. papers don't idon't know why. papers don't reveal— i don't know why. papers don't reveal why?— i don't know why. papers don't reveal why? no. would i don't know why. papers don't revealwhy? no. would you i don't know why. papers don't reveal why? no. would you agree that as reveal why? no would you agree that as the reveal why? would you agree that as the issue reveal why? 1117. would you agree that as the issue was one which was capable — as the issue was one which was capable of— as the issue was one which was capable of impacting on criminal and civil proceedings, as is later recognised, it ought to have been notified _ recognised, it ought to have been notified to — recognised, it ought to have been notified to the post office properly? element yes. -- notified to the post office properly? element yes. can prop

post office ask them to do? did the post office ask them to do? did the post office sign off and approve software that was not good enough? if it wasn't good enough, did fujitsu we will fix them as we go along? publicly, they will say, you need to ask the post office and the post office is the most culpable here. they are the ones who took all of these sub postmasters to caught and prosecuted them without properly checking whether the software was working. but from the perspective of fujitsu, it's very much down to, what was their relationship with the post office like? and then once we knew that all this was going on, onceit knew that all this was going on, once it had been exposed, what was happening, why didn't anyone from fujitsu stand up publicly and say, you know what, this could have been a problem with the software? so tare a problem with the software? so we are ttoin a problem with the software? so we are going to — a problem with the software? so we are going to zoom — a problem with the software? so we are going to zoom in _ a problem with the software? so we are going to zoom in and _ a problem with the software? so we are going to zoom in and the

regulated, the litigation support to be provided by fujitsu _ litigation support to be provided by fujitsu to _ litigation support to be provided by fujitsu to the post officevil proceedings? yes. are you aware that fujitsu _ civil proceedings? 1c1 are you aware that fujitsu operated a fraud and litigation support office? yes, i'm and litigation support office? yes, l'm aware- — and litigation support office? yes, i'm aware. which _ and litigation support office? yes, i'm aware. which still _ and litigation support office? yes, i'm aware. which still exists, - and litigation support office? yes, i'm aware. which still exists, i - i'm aware. which still exists, i think. i don't _ i'm aware. which still exists, i think. i don't know— i'm aware. which still exists, i think. i don't know if- i'm aware. which still exists, i think. i don't know if it - i'm aware. which still exists, i think. i don't know if it does i i'm aware. which still exists, i i think. i don't know if it does still exist, i would _ think. i don't know if it does still exist, i would need _ think. i don't know if it does still exist, i would need to _ think. i don't know if it does still ex

referred to in february 2021, a _ event you referred to in february 2021, a report by fujitsu to the post _ 2021, a report by fujitsu to the post office to the post office. what you understand the purpose of that report _ what you understand the purpose of that report to have been? i am what you understand the purpose of that report to have been?— that report to have been? i am not tuite sure that report to have been? i am not quite sure i— that report to have been? i am not quite sure i understand _ that report to have been? i am not quite sure i understand the - quite sure i understand the question. mr quite sure i understand the question-— quite sure i understand the tuestion. ~, ,: . , question. mrjustice fraser produces hisjudgment — question. mrjustice fraser produces hisjudgment and — question. mrjustice fraser produces hisjudgment and finds _ question. mrjustice fraser produces hisjudgment and finds the - question. mrjustice fraser produces| hisjudgment and finds the existence his judgment and finds the existence of 29 bugs, errors and defects, spends — of 29 bugs, errors and defects, spends 105 pages analysing them in 13 mont

to criminal convictions being overturned. but what of fujitsu today? well, horizon is still installed, the post officehe end of 2025. because say the post office, these systems are incredibly complicated, take years to design and build and can't be easily replaced. if you switched off horizon, you would bring the post office network to a standstill. the post office and fujitsu are locked in an embrace that is hard to break. so far fujitsu has not paid anything in compensation, and in their most recent accounts barely mention horizon as a risk to their business and have set no money aside. despite this nearly 30 year fiasco, in the last ten years the government has awarded fujitsu 191 contracts, worth more than £6.5 billion, including projects for hmrc, the ministry of defence and the home office. in 2022, the government removed fujitsu from its list of preferred suppliers, but the firm is still able to win government contracts through the normal procurement process. fujitsu executives are due before the inquiry early next week. simon for thank you. the impact on patients of the latest round ofjunior d

— from fujitsu, the post office board, down to the — from fujitsul. is your down to the investigations level. it is your evidence that because you did not receive any information about bugs, errors and defects from somebody higher above you in the post office you don't have any reflections on that? the horizon s stem, reflections on that? the horizon system. i _ reflections on that? the horizon system. i have _ reflections on that? the horizon system, i have no _ reflections on that? the horizon system, i have no reason i reflections on that? the horizon system, i have no reason to i reflections on that? the horizon i system, i have no reason to suspect at the _ system, i have no reason to suspect at the time _ system, i have no reason to suspect at the time that there was anything wrong _ at the time that there was anything wrong with the horizon system because — wrong with the horizon system because we had not been told. that's over the time — because we had not been told. that's over the time of _ because we had not been told. that's over the tim

to criminal convictions being overturned. but what of fujitsu today? well, horizon is still installed, the post officecontract till the end of 2025. because, say the post office, these systems are incredibly complicated — take years to design and build and can't be easily replaced. if you switched off horizon, you would bring the post office network to a standstill. so far, fujitsu has not paid anything in compensation and in their most recent accounts barely mention horizon as a risk to their business, and have set no money aside. despite this nearly 30 year fiasco, in the last ten years, the government has awarded fujitsu 191 contracts worth more than £6.5 billion — including projects for hmrc, the ministry of defence and the home office. in 2022, the government removed fujitsu from its list of preferred suppliers, but the firm is still able to win government contracts through the normal procurement process. fujitsu executives are due before the inquiry early next week. simonjack, simon jack, thank you. dominic casciani, the big question — how is this new law, if passed, going to work? we haven't se

to come from the people above. if it was an issue, i'd expect— above. if it was an issue, i'd expect fujitsu to inform the post officefice to let us know what the issues are.- know what the issues are. these documents _ know what the issues are. these documents from _ know what the issues are. these documents from 2010, - know what the issues are. these documents from 2010, we - know what the issues are. these documents from 2010, we are i know what the issues are. these - documents from 2010, we are going to go through different case studies in due course, how early would you say you are aware of horizon being raised as an issue?— you are aware of horizon being raised as an issue? from 2010, --eole raised as an issue? from 2010, people raising _ raised as an issue? from 2010, people raising it _ raised as an issue? from 2010, people raising it from _ raised as an issue? from 2010, people raising it from then - raised as an issue? from 2010, people raising it from then and | raised as an issue? from 2010, - people raising it from then and over the next _ people raising it from then and over the next few years.— the n

difficult for you hearing what was said today by the man from the fujitsu are you able to describe to us what you were being told via the post officetime? , ., , ., .,, time? yes to my father. he was alwa s time? yes to my father. he was always told _ time? yes to my father. he was always told he _ time? yes to my father. he was always told he was _ time? yes to my father. he wasj always told he was contractually obliged, he was contractually made to put the shortfalls right. it was his job then. to put the shortfalls right. it was hisjob then. unfortunately to put the shortfalls right. it was his job then. unfortunately over numerous attempts to call the helpline, he was made to feel very, very isolated and as a sub—postmaster he just did not know who to turn to he kept thinking to himself that it was his error. he thought that for a very long time until the errors in the shortfalls started to become more and more profound and i mean in the thousands. there was no support by fujitsu or the post office of being a sub—postmaster from 1999—, even now i can expect 2015, these sub—postmasters including my father received no assistance

to the post office and it's not in my account. that is what was looked into on this occasion. the post office has paid fujitsuwo years after a plan to move to amazon had to be abandoned. a serving postmaster told the bbc the software is still unreliable, and causes money to disappear. costs and delays are still dogging the horizon project more than two decades after the contracts were first signed. with more on this is our business reporter ben king in terms of public money in public contracts, just bring this up to date at how much is being paid to them over recent years.— them over recent years. fu'itsu is them over recent years. fu'itsu is the japanese fl them over recent years. fu'itsu is the japanese contractor h them over recent years. fujitsu is the japanese contractorjust - them over recent years. fujitsu is the japanese contractorjust beenj the japanese contractorjust been working on the horizon system since 1996 with a called it the largest it project outside of the military in europe. since the postmasters one their case against the government in 2019, it is carried on business and 101 contracts ove

defects in the system and the post office agrees to find compensation to sub master dominic sub—postmaster sent mistresses. horizon is still installed in the post office is paid fujitsuthe contract until the end of 2025. why? because the post office as the systems are incredibly complicated and take years to design and build and cannot be easily replaced. to be switched off horizon, you would bring the post office network to a standstill. fujitsu so far has not paid anything in compensation and in their most recent accounts barely mention horizon is a risk to their business and have set no money aside. despite this nearly 30 year fiasco, in the last ten years the government has awarded fujitsu 191 contracts worth more than 65 £5 billion, including projects for the ministry of defence and home office. and 2022, the government removed fujitsu from its preferred list of supplies but it can still win government contracts for the procurement process. fujitsu executives are due before the enquiry next week. let's return to the us now, because in the next few hours we get consumer price inflation figures for december. they will be a key piece of evidence for the federal res

i think there is evidence from paul patterson is going to be hugely significant and that is because fujitsu played a central role in the post officert cases over many years that led to a sub—postmaster is being sent to prison. what we have been hearing from this inquiry over the last few daysis from this inquiry over the last few days is that whilst fujitsu employees were signing witness statements, saying the horizon software the post office was using was operating properly, at the same time, fujitsu staff members were sending each other memos, e—mails, holding meetings about their concerns about the fujitsu software system, horizon. they were even raising questions to themselves about the integrity of those witness statements they were providing. yesterday, we heard about the case of lee castleton who was wrongly accused of stealing £25,000. the reason why he was not believed in court was because a fujitsu employee gave evidence against him and as a result, lee castleton was bankrupt or dead. i caught up with him yesterday and asked for his response that one fujitsu employee called him a nasty chap out to rubbish the fujitsu nam

fujitsu system. the post office subsequently agreed to pay compensation to over 500 subpostmasters and mistresses. on system is still place — the post office paid an additional £100 million to extend the contract till the end of next year. fujitsu has continued to win other government contracts with hmrc, the mod, the home office and others, worth billions of pounds. this begs the question — should fujitsu be trusted with delivering key services? well, the european boss of fujitsu faces mps at 11:30am tomorrow morning. reeta. the race for the white house officially gets under way tonight, with republican supporters in iowa meeting to give their preference on who should be the candidate in november�*s election. donald trump is the firm favourite and has predicted a record victory. but, with temperatures in the state plummeting to as low as minus 30, turnout could be a factor. 0ur north american editor, sarah smith, has the latest. expectations around donald trump ask i had this evening because polls suggesting he could win more support than all his rivals combined. voters are flocking to him, driven

want some answers, please, from ministers, including you, about what you are going to do about the post office and fujitsu and fu'itsu. up until now, fujitsu has — office and fujitsu. up until now, fujitsu has escaped _ office and fujitsu. up until now, fujitsu has escaped much - office and fujitsu. up until now, fujitsu has escaped much of - office and fujitsu. up until now, fujitsu has escaped much of the | fujitsu has escaped much of the scrutiny, given a statement in apologising for its role and says it will support the public inquiry that it is going to get a grilling from mps today. 50 it is going to get a grilling from mps today-— it is going to get a grilling from mps today. so far, fu'itsu, who built the system _ mps today. so far, fu'itsu, who built the system that h mps today. so far, fujitsu, who built the system that failed, - mps today. so far, fujitsu, whol built the system that failed, that led to innocent people going behind bars, have not said anything and

to all parties. but these issues remained hidden from the courts in the post office action against sub—postmasters. i'm surprised that that detail was not included in the witness statements given by fujitsuhave seen some evidence of editing of witness statements by others. no doubt you would regard that as shameful? iwould... yes, that would be one word i would use. what's the other one? shameful, appalling. my understanding of how our laws work in this country, that all of the evidence should have been put in front of the sub—postmaster. the inquiry heard last month post office lawyers and investigators had rewritten witness statements. today, they also looked at some of the bugs. one big one, calendar square, created duplicate transactions and it took fujitsu more than five years to fix it. fujitsu was also under contract to provide transaction data to the post office in its legal pursuit of sub—postmasters. the material was supposed to allow branch managers to see if horizon was working properly. but even when this crucial data was provided, the inquiry heard it wasn't always accurate or complete. we have clearly let society down and the sub—postmasters down. i think we had our obliga

yet, for years the post office denied that that access was possible so again, what were fujitsu telling the post office about that issue? we are going tog the sub—postmasters league castleton. he was wrongly accused of stealing £25,000

to all parties. but these issues remained hidden from the courts in the post office action against sub—postmasters. i'm surprised that that detail was not included in the witness statements given by fujitsuseen some evidence of editing of witness statements by others. no doubt you would regard that as shameful? iwould... yes, that would be one word i would use. what's the other one? shameful, appalling. my understanding of how our laws work in this country, that all of the evidence should have been put in front of the sub—postmaster. the inquiry heard last month that post office lawyers and investigators had rewritten witness statements. today, they also looked at some of the bugs, one big one, calendar square, created duplicate transactions and it took fujitsu more than five years to fix it. fujitsu was also under contract to provide transaction data to the post office in its legal pursuit of sub—postmasters. the material was supposed to allow brands managers to see if horizon was working properly. but even when this crucial data was provided, the inquiry heard it wasn't always accurate or complete. we have clearly let society down and the sub—postmasters down. when we had our obligatio

if there was an issue, i would expect fujitsu to inform the post office — i would expect fujitsu to informfice and the post office to let us know what the issues are. these _ let us know what the issues are. these documents are from 2010. we will go through a number of different case studies in due course. how soon were you aware of horizon being raised as an issue? from 2010, as i say, people were raising — from 2010, as i say, people were raising it. _ from 2010, as i say, people were raising it, and overthe from 2010, as i say, people were raising it, and over the next few years _ years. when you say years. — when you say 2010 as years — when you say 2010 as the yrs — when you say 2010 as the starting point, or is there an earlier... ? i think some may have even mentioned it earlier~ _ it earlier. we - it earlier. we will go back live now it earlier. — we will go back live now to the hearing, where evidence continues to be given. we have a problem which should be solved in a few minutes with the transcripts, and my colleagues and i will sit here rather than go in and help, but feel free

what we need is we need to see people held to account within the post office, but also within fujitsu. and if necessary, we need to see people go to prison on the same way that they sent postmasters and post—mistresses to present. i and post—mistresses to present. i just wonder how feasible or realistic it would be to remove the company from the public sector. ben gave the example of the police national computer. it has been run by fujitsu for many years, there were no other private sector bidders when the contract came up for renewal in 2022.— when the contract came up for renewal in 2022. ., ., ., ., renewal in 2022. you have to wonder, certainl i renewal in 2022. you have to wonder, certainly i wonder, _ renewal in 2022. you have to wonder, certainly i wonder, when _ renewal in 2022. you have to wonder, certainly i wonder, when you - renewal in 2022. you have to wonder, certainly i wonder, when you have - certainly i wonder, when you have got somebody very senior in fujitsu given the conservative party over a quarter of £8 million, whether that plays a part into this full stop we n

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to all parties. but these issues remained hidden from the courts in the post office action against sub—postmasters. i'm surprised that that detail was not included in the witness statements given by fujitsue seen some evidence of editing of witness statements by others. no doubt you would regard that as shameful? iwould... yes, that would be one word i would use. what's the other one? shameful, appalling. my understanding of how our laws work in this country, that all of the evidence should have been put in front of the sub—postmaster. the inquiry heard last month that post office lawyers and investigators had rewritten witness statements. today, they also looked at some of the bugs, one big one, calendar square, created duplicate transactions and it took fujitsu more than five years to fix it. fujitsu was also under contract to provide transaction data to the post office in its legal pursuit of sub—postmasters. the material was supposed to allow brands managers to see if horizon was working properly. but even when this crucial data was provided, the inquiry heard it wasn't always accurate or complete. we have clearly let society down and the sub—postmasters down, and the sub—postmasters

to explain who knew what when and what needs exploring next. in1999, in 1999, the post office introduced a new it system called horizon and it was made by the japanese company fujitsuwith their accounting and stock—taking. soon after it was installed, some supposed mothers and postmistresses began noticing the system was falsely reporting shortfalls, some amounting to thousands. shortfalls, some amounting to thousands-— shortfalls, some amounting to thousands. ~ thousands. when i said, look, there is something — thousands. when i said, look, there is something basically, _ thousands. when i said, look, there is something basically, the - is something basically, the computers are naff, they said, oh, you are the only one having problems. everyone else is doing fine. pa. problems. everyone else is doing fine. �* , . . problems. everyone else is doing fine. �* , ., ., ., problems. everyone else is doing fine. ~ , ., ., ., , fine. a year later, after some use their own — fine. a year later, after some use their own money _ fine. a year later, after some use their own money to _ fine. a year later, after some use their own money to pay _ fine. a year later, after some u

last few moments, the two deputy chairmen today at six — fujitsu in the spotlight — as bosses are forced to answer questions about the post officesenior boss is grilled by mps. fujitsu would like to apologise for our part in this appalling miscarriage of justice. also tonight: in the last few minutes, two deputy chairman of the conservative party resign after backing changes to the government's plans to send some asylum seekers to rwanda. just hours after his historic win in iowa as he tries to return to the white house, donald trump finds himself back in court. the mystery of the seven giant tortoises who've been found dead in woodland in devon. and coming up on bbc news — a shock move for wales and gloucester spinner as he quits rugby union to play american football. —— we endure. —— winger. good evening. welcome to the bbc news at six. we start with some breaking news. in the last few moments, the two deputy chairmen of conservative party have resigned. the news comes as mps are voting on the government's plan to remove asylum seekers to rwanda. let's go straight to our political editor chris mason at westminster. hello.

what we need is we need to see people held to account within the post office, but also within fujitsurivate sector bidders when the contract came up for renewal in 2022.— when the contract came up for renewal in 2022. ., ., ., ., renewal in 2022. you have to wonder, certainl i renewal in 2022. you have to wonder, certainly i wonder, _ renewal in 2022. you have to wonder, certainly i wonder, when _ renewal in 2022. you have to wonder, certainly i wonder, when you - renewal in 2022. you have to wonder, certainly i wonder, when you have - certainly i wonder, when you have got somebody very senior in fujitsu

post office scandal. as you've been hearing, members of parliament have been questioning the european boss of fujitsu, the japanese company which developed the software which contributed toost office managers being wrongly convicted of fraud. bugs in the horizon platform, which was introduced in the 1990s, made it look as though money had gone missing from post offices. their managers faced prosecution, which devastated their lives, with some dying by suicide. fujitsu's european ceo paul patterson today offered an unreserved apology. fujitsu would like to apologise for our part in this appalling miscarriage of justice. we were involved from the very start, we did have bugs and errors in the system and we did help the post office in their prosecutions of the sub—postmasters. for that we are truly sorry. mr patterson also accepted that the it giant now had to play its part in compensating the victims. i think there is a moral obligation for the company to contribute and i think the right place to determine that is when our responsibility is very clear. there are many parties involved in this travesty. the bbc has caught up with the global chief executive of fujitsu, takahi

post office scandal, what about fujitsu ? what about the bonuses fujitsu? what about the bonuses paid tocharge at the post office when this scandal happened? i'll be deaung scandal happened? i'll be dealing with all of those issues in my monologue at ten. you won't want to miss it. but first, angela levin joins me for the royal dispatch . i do love the royal dispatch. i do love that dramatic music . prince that dramatic music. prince william headed north today to present cbs two rugby stars, rob burrow and kevin sinfield , after burrow and kevin sinfield, after their campaign to highlight motor neurone disease captured the hearts of the nation . 41 the hearts of the nation. 41 year old burrow is battling the degenerative condition and has joined forces with sinfield to run marathons and raise awareness right across the country . country. >> thank you. thank you raised so much. the profile mnd, your brotherly um bond relationship . brotherly um bond relationship. this interview has been so amazing to watch and the inspiration for everyone to kind amazing to watch and the insgo ation for e

to you from the first paragraph. "i am garethjenkins, i am employed by fujitsu who have been contacted by post office limited to provide country. however, i understand that my role is to assist the court rather than to represent the views of my employer is or post office limited. " if we go over the page, i am going to read some of that statement. he says, "i've been asked to provide a statement in the case of grant allen. i understand the integrity of the system has been questioned and this report provides some general information. i know that in the summary of facts, it is stated that during the period of relocation in march 2010, mr allen believed that a £3000 discrepancy was due to horizon not sending out data. non—polling. i've been shown extracts from the horizon non—polled reports from the eighth to the 17th of march which show that the winsford branch was included in the report for 12 days up to and including the 17th of march. this in itself is unusual, as if a branch appears on the non—polled report for more than a few days, an attempt is made to retrieve the data by other means before day ten. i

to keep up with the latest. the bosses of the post office and fujitsu and the former sub postmaster who has led the campaign forjusticescandal are to be questioned by mps later. the commons' business and trade committee will examine what more can be done to deliver compensation for victims of what has been labelled one of the worst miscarriages ofjustice in british history. nick read, chief executive of the post office, and paul patterson, europe director at fujitsu, are both due to appear. they will be grilled by politicians. a lot more on that in 20 minutes when we look in detail at fujitsu, the horizon software and what happens next. all that still to come. iranian—backed houthi rebels in yemen have confirmed that they carried out a ballistic missile strike on a us—owned cargo ship in the gulf of aden. the militants described the incident as a direct hit, and added that all us and british ships taking part in what they called the aggression against yemen would be targets. on monday, uk prime minister rishi sunakfaced mps for the first time since airstrikes launched on friday. here's our political editor chris mason

to inspire fujitsu to sort of become much more forthcoming? why did fujitsu not decide to just reach out? why are fujitsu executor happy to not meet? the post officeitsu's view on the sound bite. what is fu'itsu's view on one proposed _ sound bite. what is fujitsu's view on the proposed legislation - sound bite. what is fujitsu's view on the proposed legislation is? l on the proposed legislation is? think the prison sentences are appropriate or inappropriate to those found guilty? i appropriate or inappropriate to those found guilty?— those found guilty? i have no expertise- — those found guilty? i have no expertise. will _ those found guilty? i have no expertise. will fujitsu - those found guilty? i have no expertise. will fujitsu give i those found guilty? i have no| expertise. will fujitsu give its expertise. will fu'itsu give its full expertise. will fu'itsu give its fuusupponh expertise. will fu'itsu give its full support of_ expertise. will fujitsu give its full support of victims - expertise. will fujitsu give its full support of victims to - expertise. will fujitsu give its full support of victims to have their convictions quashed? i will

post office? yes, we did. how the post office then chose to use that information in their prosecutions is entirely on the post office's side. but he was less clear about what fujitsuin the system — you knew that there were glitches in the system. why did you sit back and do absolutely nothing about it? i don't know. i really don't know. and on a personal level, i wish i did know. questions, too, for the ceo of the post office, nick reid, who started in 2019. have you seen any evidence that post office executives misled the courts at any stage? i have not seen any evidence, no. have you seen any evidence that post office ministers misled parliament at any stage? no, i haven't. do you believe that the post office prosecuted the innocent knowing the case to be flawed? i sincerely hope not, but i have not had evidence to that effect. but he did admit that it was possible money wrongly taken from subpostmasters could have ended up as part of executives' pay. jo hamilton was watching it all right behind them. i kind of knew what they were going to say, but he did say he was going to cough up. yeah, yeah, yeah. ish. yeah. so that's good news. it's good news for the taxpa

to leave the post office inquiry at - integrity... we are going to leave the post office inquiry at that - the post office inquiry at that particular point. we are hearing from paul patterson, the head of fujitsuers in the uk. we let's join viewers in the uk. we are going to stay with her breaking news, which is that tata steel has just announced that 2800 employees are expected to be affected. we understand that this is to do with both of the blast furnaces in the uk's port talbot site are expected to be replaced with an electric version, so the news has been around for a day or so but it does seem that this announcement is coming now. they have been doing that to move towards more environmentally friendly steel production, but it does come with apple on job losses and we are now receiving that statement, 2800 employees are expected to be affected, out of which around 2500 roles would be affected in the next 18 months. so confirmation there from tata steel about those job losses. we bring in our business presenter now. we have been following the story, charlotte. some detail coming in on the numbers. so it is 2800, a little less than what we were expecting. we were expecting 3000, not a huge

paul patterson, the. not stand up to that. - paul patterson, the director of fujitsu europe. the chief executive of the post officenk post office staff first knew that remote access to horizon terminals was possible? i horizon terminals was possible? i could not give you an exact date on that _ could not give you an exact date on that. ., , ., , ., ., that. that question is fundamental to this case- _ that. that question is fundamental to this case. what _ that. that question is fundamental to this case. what is _ that. that question is fundamental to this case. what is fundamentall to this case. what is fundamental from our perspective _ to this case. what is fundamental from our perspective is, - to this case. what is fundamental from our perspective is, we - to this case. what is fundamental from our perspective is, we are l from our perspective is, we are facilitating _ from our perspective is, we are facilitating sir wyn getting to the bottom _ facilitating sir wyn getting to the bottom of these issues. how long have ou bottom of these issues. how long have you been — bottom of these issues. how long have you

fujitsu has apologised for the company's role in the post office scandal. paul patterson, who's head of fujitsu in europe, says that the company has a moral duty to compensatevicted because of flaws in its software. next, roma have sacked their manager, jose mourinho, in what was the 60—year—old's 10th full—time role as a manager. the club have parted ways with him after a poor run of form, winning only one of their last six serie a games. former roma captain daniele de rossi will replace him. time now to leave you with 10 seconds of a deer prancing around in the snow, in a garden as it sweeping across parts of the uk right now. the deer was spotted in jackie's garden and she said, as you can imagine, it was a really beautiful surprise. you're all caught up now. see you later. hello, i'm mark edwards. welcome to sports day. here's what's coming up on our show. the date is set for a hearing into manchester city's alleged breaches of financial rules. saudi arabia avoid an upset as they see off 0man in the asian cup. rugby bombshell as rees—zammit quits the sport to try to fulfil his nfl dreams. thanks forjoining us on sports day. we start with football and th

post office kept insisting in public their system was robust, as they had since the turn—of—the—century. in 1999, the post office launches fujitsu's horizon it system in 20,000 post offices. it seems toash shortfalls and over the next decade 983 branch managers are prosecuted, with many sent to prison or losing their homes, or in some cases taking their own lives. in 2013, second site independent review confirmed what 5ub postmaster had said for years, that bugs in horizon can generate fictional cash shortfalls that never actually happened. throughout 2014 the post office keeps claiming in public that there were no systemic errors and the project sparrow committee of top bosses and the government had already agreed a plan to take second site of the case in private. second site off the case in private. they were sacked the following march. but the unredacted report proved that the government knew all about it. the minutes show the post office chair, the chief executive and a government representative discu55 second site independent role in investigating 5ub postmaster�*s complaints in a mediation committee. i took those unredacted minutes to show senior ministers. a former sub—postmis

right from the start since we were the first to write about this in 2009, fujitsu has always been, no comment, no comment, refer everybody to the post officesay some of the blame because in public they are not going to take the blame because of the legal implications of that, but at least to show some serious contrition. in particular what the mps will be looking for is fujitsu to give some indication that they may be willing to make a contribution to the compensation that is going to the sub—postmasters that otherwise is going to be paid by taxpayers. find going to be paid by taxpayers. and how key are fujitsu in all of this? because they of course did not prosecute people but obviously, what they set up is the start of this whole story. they set up is the start of this whole story-— they set up is the start of this whole story. they set up is the start of this whole sto . , ., ., whole story. yes, the horizon it s stem whole story. yes, the horizon it system that _ whole story. yes, the horizon it system that is — whole story. yes, the horizon it system that is at _ whole story. yes, the horizon it system that is at the _ whole story. yes

— to do about the post office and fujitsu i— to do about the post office and fujitsuible and then impose sanctions on those responsible, be it a prosecution, asking people to contribute to the taxpayer bill for compensation.— compensation. they already took sanctions on _ compensation. they already took sanctions on everyone _ compensation. they already took sanctions on everyone else. - compensation. they already tookj sanctions on everyone else. they accused — sanctions on everyone else. they accused everyone without evidence. why does _ accused everyone without evidence. why does that make any difference to how you _ why does that make any difference to how you are _ why does that make any difference to how you are saying the process will be now? _ how you are saying the process will be now? |— how you are saying the process will be now? ~ , how you are saying the process will be now? ~' , ., ., be now? i think they were wrong to do that. be now? i think they were wrong to do that- and _ be now? i think they were wrong to do that. and it — be now? i think they were

post office kept insisting in public their system was robust, as they had since the turn—of—the—century. in 1999, the post office launches fujitsu's horizon it system in 20,000 post offices. it seems to 983 branch managers are prosecuted, with many sent to prison or losing their homes, or in some cases taking their homes, or in some cases taking their own lives. in 2013, second site independent review confirmed what sub postmaster had said for years, that bugs in horizon can generate fictional cash shortfalls that never actually happened. throughout 2014 the post office keeps claiming in public that there were no systemic errors and the project sparrow committee of top bosses and the government had already agreed a plan to take second site of the case in private. they were sacked the following march. but the unredacted report proved that the unredacted report proved that the government knew all about it. the minutes show the post office chair, the chief executive and a government representative discuss second site independent role in investigating sub postmaster is burma complaints in a mediation committee. i took those unredacted minutes to show senior ministers. a former sub—postmi

to blame. today the boss of fujitsu said they told the post office early on that remote access was possible, so then there is the ongoing despair from joe hamilton she was saying when she looks back at the hoops she is having tojump through looks back at the hoops she is having to jump through to get compensation after her conviction was overturned, so owner as she feels like she's been tried again. she says she was cast led by one of the most trusted institutions and their technology partners. and of course there is alan bates, the campaign a chief who has become an unlikely folk hero, if you like. he says there are people out there, 193—year—old, waiting for compensation as many people may die waiting for the money and justice they have waited for so long. the uk covid inquiry moved to edinburgh today, where it will spend the next three weeks examining the scottish government's handling of the pandemic. it is expected to hear from a number of key figures, including the former first minister, nicola sturgeon. our health editor hugh pym is there for us. what are the key question there? well, th

the european boss of fujitsu is set to give evidence at the post office inquiry today. ral obligation" to contribute to compensation for sub—postmasters wrongly prosecuted as a result of its faulty software. 0ur employment correspondent zoe conway reports. fujitsu would like to apologise for our part in this appalling miscarriage ofjustice. the miscarriage of 'ustice. the veryfirsth miscarriage of 'ustice. the very first time _ miscarriage ofjustice. the very first time the - miscarriage ofjustice. the very first time the fujitsu boss telling parliament his company sorry. no doubt, he will be saying it again at the public enquiry this morning. certainly, richard socket will welcome an apology. he was ordered to pay back £12,000 by the post office, money he did not have. he had to turn to his dad for help. not have. he had to turn to his dad for help-— not have. he had to turn to his dad for help. so, you know, my 80-year-old — dad for help. so, you know, my 80-year-old father _ dad for help. so, you know, my 80-year-old father had - dad for help. so, you know, my 80-year

post office? yes, we did. how the post office then chose to use that information in their prosecutions is entirely on the post office's side. but he was less clear about what fujitsu in the system. why did you sit back and do absolutely nothing about it? i don't know. i really don't know. and on a personal level, i wish i did know. questions, too, for the ceo of the post office, nick reid, who started in 2019. have you seen any evidence that post office executives misled the courts at any stage? i've seen any evidence, no. have you seen any evidence that post office ministers misled parliament at any stage? no, i haven't. do you believe that the post office prosecuted the innocent knowing the case to be flawed? i sincerely hope not, but i have not had evidence to that effect. but he did admit that it was possible money wrongly taken from subpostmasters could have ended up as part of executives�* pay. jo hamilton was watching it all right behind them. i kind of knew what - they were going to say. but he did say he was going to cough up. yeah, yeah, yeah. ish. yeah. so that's good news. it's good news for the taxpayer anyway, isn't it? _ but we just need this fast—t

fujitsu and the post office. and it does sound as though fujitsu is going to start cough up. s no no information on exactly how much or when we can expect money from fujitsu. meanwhile, the post office nick read from the post office has admitted that he thinks that the amount of money that the post office ends up shelling out to these wrongly convicted and convicted postmasters and post mistresses the mistresses could be in the region of £1 billion. >> interesting . >> interesting. >> interesting. >> the post office isn't always exactly in a good financial situation , is it? situation, is it? >> well, you'd reckon that fujitsu, one of the biggest companies in the world, a company that continues to get uk taxpayer funded government contracts , might well, uh, be to contracts, might well, uh, be to be be in a position to shell up some money. olivia, just finally , have we heard anything in this committee from the fujitsu bosses about those contract that they continue to get from the british government . british government. >> well, this is a really interesting question and a fas

endemic faults in it and so it is going to be very interesting to see what he knew about the information that fujitsu was applying to the post office prosecution of innocent people. indie used in the prosecution of innocent --eole. ~ ., used in the prosecution of innocent neale, . ., ., used in the prosecution of innocent --eole. ~ ., ., ., people. we will hear more from the inuui people. we will hear more from the inquiry iater- _ people. we will hear more from the inquiry later. nick _ people. we will hear more from the inquiry later. nick wallis, _ people. we will hear more from the inquiry later. nick wallis, for - people. we will hear more from the inquiry later. nick wallis, for now, | inquiry later. nick wallis, for now, thank you. a cross party committee of mps has strongly criticised government efforts to protect homes in england from flooding. the report says the government's goals are poorly defined, and that it had failed to achieve targets that do exist. our environment correspondent jonah fisher has the report. in some places, like here in stratford—upon—avon, the water just flowed. elsewhere — this was bewdley — floo

to the help desk. it also made reports about shortfalls and discrepancies. the post office admitted that this was important to the case, the fujitsunclear what if any analysis was performed. there was no examination of that data for bugs, errors or defects or evidence of theft. it appears there was no evidence to corroborate the horizon evidence. the fact that mrjenkins provided witness statements suggest that the post office did not disclose the full position regarding the reliability of horizon. there was no proof of actual loss as opposed to horizon generated shortage. the post office concedes that the persecution was unfair, but we are bound to conclude that the prosecution was an affront to justice. can we return to your witness statement... page nine. if we look at page nine, that is where you address the case of ishaq. and we can see at the bottom... there we have footnote three, a large number of documents were provided in relation to the case, do you recall that?— provided in relation to the case, do you recall that? yes. if we school down we have — you recall that? yes. if we school down we have the _ you recall that? ye

post office candle. he was talking about computer glitches and they are being quite painstakingly going through those computer glitches, what the obligation was a fujitsu to also to what extent that evidence was appearing in court and there do seem to be some inconsistencies there. this questioning is going to continue. it is essential to understanding what went wrong at the post office. let's now turn to another uk story, tata steel. you are life with bbc news. at the —— boeing 7478 cargo plane has had to make an emergency landing at miami international airport late on thursday. you can see this video posted online shows flames coming out of the left wing of the aircraft whilst in flight. it was on its way to sanjuan in puerto rico from miami international airport. to sanjuan in puerto rico from miami internationalairport. no miami international airport. no injuries miami internationalairport. no injuries were reported. let's get more on tata steel, which has said it is to close both blast furnaces at its port talbot works in south wales with the loss of aroiund 3,000 jobs. of up to 2,800 jobs. the only other blast furnace in the uk is in the north east