one of my favorite movements, post picasso, was a movement called "orfism," which was intended to involve music with painting, which is an interesting conceptualization. are lots of overlaps. i know as a young person i wondered other kinds of borders. i was a student of russian. a group of young kids act -- vowed to speak russian while traveling through russia. in a little town in georgia, in russia, one sunday there was this group of kids that were singing and elvis presley album. i went up to them. i am speaking russian. i soon found they could not speak a word of english, but they could sing elvis. there was a former president of oberlin who wrote a book on the importance of jazz in the second russian revolution, the revolution that toppled communism, suggesting that jazz was the first emanation of real freedom of some russians and that it had a phenomenal ramification in movements towards political freedom. so you had the transmigration of music to politics. i think that these aspects of the creative mind working in hugely different ways, on different people in different times and dif