think of hungary, poland, the philippines, post-mandela south africa.see there's less freedom of the press. the judiciary is more corrupt. elections don't stop -- it's not like putin's russia. they don't murder people. they don't even usually wrongfully arrest people. they use a lot of deceit and corruption and make political checks and balances less meaningful. that's the future i fear for the united states under donald trump. >> i guess the question tonight is whether or not in the era of trump we are going to become -- he will force us to become, coerce us to become better citizens. yes, no? >> that's such an important question. i'm not going to make a prediction. i'm going to offer encouragement. one of the things that -- i keep saying in the article, people may remember the story of ebenezer scrooge, "the christmas carol." when he sees the ghost of christmas future, he asks, are you the vision of things that will be or of things that could be? the ghost never answers. this is just a future. you can choose your own. you look at a lot of the groups t