i was going to the potomac villa village safeway. this is on falls and river road. i as with my mother and i w teenager. i wanted her to go in one door and me go in the other. i chose the wrong door becau the door i chose was the one where mark judge was -looked like he was working there. and arranging the shopping carts. and i said hello to m. and his face was white and veryf b uncomfortable saying hello back. we had previously been friendly at the times we saw each other r he previous two years, albeit not very many times. we had always been friendly with one another. i wouldn't characterize him as not friendly. he was nervous and not wting to speak with me. he looked a little bit ill. >> how long did this occur after the indent? >> i would estimate six to eight weeks. >> thank you, mr. chairman. >>> before we take a break, i can't let what durbin -- senator durbin said. by the way, he's my friend. we work on a lot ogelegislation er. but you talked about the obstruction from the other sid i cannot let it go by what you've heard me say soany times that between july

i was going to the potomac villa village safeway. this is on falls and river road. i was with my mother and i was a teenager. i wanted her to go in one door and me go in the other. i chose the wrong door because the door i chose was the one where mark judge was -- looked like he was working there. and arranging the shopping carts. and i said hello to him. and his face was white and very unkftab uncomfortable saying hello back. we had previously been friendly at the times we saw each other over the previous two years, albeit not very many times. we had always been friendly with one another. i wouldn't characterize him as not friendly. he was nervous and not wanting to speak with me. he looked a little bit ill. >> how long did this occur after the incident? >> i would estimate six to eight weeks. >> thank you, mr. chairman. >>> before we take a break, i can't let what durbin -- senator durbin said. by the way, he's my friend. we work on a lot of legislation together. but you talked about the obstruction from the other side. i cannot let it go by what you've heard me s