>> matt pottinger: yeah.ing thing. >> stahl: matt pottinger was president trump's national security a ♪ ♪ ♪ ( applause ) now writes about china at the hoover institution. to him, the recent crackdowns smack of maoist repression. xi's defenders say that he's not killing capitalism, he's just modifying, getting rid of the excesses. >> pottinger: i've always believed that the best interpreter of xi jinping is xi jinping himself. >> stahl: and what's he saying, in terms of capitalism? >> pottinger: what he said, in one of his most important speeches, he said, "we will see to it in this long struggle that capitalism dies out in the world," and that his vision of socialism prevails. >> keyu jin: china grew really lawlessly, chaotically, in the last 40 years. and that's all about to change. >> stahl: economist keyu jin splits her time between the u.k., where she teaches at the london school of economics, and beijing, where her father is president of one of china's largest state-owned banks. is xi jinping killing off

meadows went to pottinger and pottinger went back to his office and wrote his letter of resignation right the key to all of this. >> what is going on here insofar as meadows produces documents, writes a book, initially is cooperating and now draws a line in the sand. explain that to me. >> i think he's trying to manage his relationship with donald trump which at this point is all he has. i'm absolutely confident that meadows, when he wrote the book, told trump he was writing the book. obviously trump's quote is on the front page of the book. trump put out a statement praising it as the truth. meadows, you know, wasn't going to put anything in that book without first running it by donald trump, but when trump saw how it played, the idea that trump had a positive covid test before the debate, it's in the book. when trump saw how it played, he got furious. he got angry. and now meadows needs to make a show of support for trump and needs to pick a fight with an enemy of trump, which is this committee. i think that that's what's going on. he's just trying to get back in good graces with a very

as my colleague and good friend matt pottinger put it we have to have a sprint to get to america in the last point on the force structure i try to make it virtualng about the specifics reserve active guard and these kind of things. by concentrating in a way that you are suggesting at the framework level and i don't pretend to have any of the answers by any stretch. we are better off over focusing because actually we are not over focusing and look you can see china is by far the most -- country in the world. if venezuela gets really frisky or cuba gets really frisky there's not much they can do and b we obvious have forces begin use to call up the guard and reserve the handle base. they aren't going to develop a death ray so we have to make realistic investments based on the biggest risk which is acutely china and russia. and equitable and more body cam video coalition. i really appreciateee in your bk the second to last chapter was not elbridge colby's strategy for china. we need more acoustically superior submarines. i love that you pull back from that. >> thehe last grouping whether s

we saw china from the very beginning, mat pottinger, a real hero in december of 2019, and they were -nese to cooperate, and they wouldn't send us samples, they stonewahled us. we saw the w.h.o. basically carrying china's water and wouldn't help us out. i guess long term, as senator gillibrand said, we've got to figure out a way to work together to make sure this doesn't happen again. any strategies in that realm, to build some sort of medical partnership with china? >> you know, absolutely. china is a bully. my dad taught me in grade school you have to stand up to china tore a bully, right, but we need an all-world approach as well. we've also called on the world health organization to go back and investigate this and they're starting that process, but i would just reference the dna lab bank. dr. xi shut done the lab bank in september of 2019. ego health should have lab data as well. the nih had lab data they've shut down as well. we have experts in there, we may find the grandfather or cousin of covid-19, i don't know that, but there's economic pressures and sanctions. it's no differ