times you find that even if there's bipartisanship on one issue, if there's not on another, it can poyen the well. so if you're having a fight over one, it can poison the other and i think vice versa. >> thanks for being with us. i appreciate your time on c-span's "newsmakers" program. >> this is c-span's, courtesy of america's cable company. up next, president obama discussing health care at his town hall meeting in green bay, wisconsin. following that, house minority leader john boehner on the same issue. then a forum on new developments and challenges concerning mental health care. >> the government funding of colleges, direct aid to colleges and their students really is a late 1950's, early 1960's thing that has grown rapidly since then. >> hillsdale college has never accepted government funding and today not even government-backed student loans are permitted. >> title 4 is rufle 40050 pages long. we have a lawyer here trying to keep the government from giving us money and i asked him to send me title 4 and he said there wasn't any use, i wouldn't be able to read it. >> tonight at 8: