but for that coordinatedare to ppen, dr. sam jones says form needs to change the way doctors are paid. >> they are talking abt care nagement fees, and that woul be a hugstep in the right direction, to hire either th nurses, nutritiosts or other members of the healtteam that can he manage these patients in ways other than thaone-to- one doctor/patient relionship. >> rorter: lawmakers are also considerinboosting reimbursementso primary care doctors by 10%. but to pay forhat, imbursemen to specialists would be cut. orthopaedic surgeon dr. rc rankin worries that could reduce patient access to spialty care at a time when demandor procedures like joint replacents is increasing. he says eas like medical homes to tat chronic disease may come with uninnded consequences. >> being able toanage patients to keethem out of difficulty and keep them healthier a great goalo shoot for, the question iwill that happen, and will the..we would certainly hope tt the managed care would noteplace the old gatekeep of the early '90s of e h.m.o.s, wher

. >> thateckling, that just does not ppen on these occasions. it was our real ock. here to consider the reactio and others to the speech, the senior political producert the bet. thatas quite a shock >> politically, it was a time bomb. has been all over the cty today. mediately, most of his republican collgues -- representative wils is from south calina -- heas asked to do an apology. he issued one immediate. he spoke to e president. but he was alsosked his colleagues to gon to the hous floor and apologize, and declines tdo that. what does ts means well for lino voters, for african erican voters when ty are heari that sort of reaction? >> this was a doub whammy annsult from the publican party, to go through lge blocks o minority voters. this came when the predent was addressing immigration. excuse me n addressing immigration but whether not migrants would be able to recee health care. he said they woul not ifhey were in the country illelly. everyone knows that was a direct rerence to --everyone knows they are going on about illegal immigrants, primarily latino immigr

if that ppens, what does it mean for saudi arabia? >> ihink realistically it's gointo take decades for the united states or any developed country, for tt matter, to shift eney mix in a meaningful way,ut t time to start is certainly now. i don't dispute eeed to start responsib putting resources -- especially science antechnology to findechnical soluons, but i believe political pronouncements out shifti oil from oil are counterproductive. >> susie: americanonsumers are lining up to buy electric cars, they're becomingore -- they're cutting ck on their energy e. what ds that meanor saudi abia? >> wheres the electricity coming from? if the objective is -- electricity is incasingly coming fm coal. coal is theighest polluter in terms of carbon emissions and i uld advise peoplein general to look at the total picture of the energy mix, where it's coming fm, what are the costs to society both environmentally as well as economically. >> susie: any ecomist would tell you tt the best way to make people fuel efficient isto raiseprices, so are high

. >> that's what we hopewill ppen. >> rose: uted states, your arab neighbors andhe iaelis. >>absolutely. you noticehe strength of this whole thing is thatit's positive. it's aut building this. we're taing about building a state. buding the institutions of the state. building t a statehood. it's positive most constructi agenda and that's essential ally. rose: what brought y to this construct of at was necessary to happ? howdid you g to th place? >> you kw, it i wi convictionhat under any condition, regardless of adversity, first you have too the best you can. conditions can b propitious an t soropitious, but, you know, that does not absolve you of the resnsibility of having to do the best you canunder any set ofishlg circumstances. it's a challenge and think that's the pcess byhich we're turning thi into a process that's inspiring. you rlly need to inspire people. once again, after four dades of oupation, long fo decades of occation, you need to really have more than the engineerinsense of the technocrat knowledge or the technical know how you need to spirit. fortunately wh

say, and what i ill y, is that we are doing everying we can think o to reduc the risk that it will ppen, and to prepare and to be resilient shld something occur. so it's really a culture of preparedness, a culture o resilncy, knowing tha we n't put te entire unit ates under some bigdome, and say, are wel, a terrorist attack will never occur. th would be inapproprie assurance. >> were there hings that could hae been done by the bush admistration to have prevend 9/11? >> i don't look at it that way. what i look at is what have e leard, what do we nee and wht do we now have in place at would reduce, if not eliminate therisk of a 9/11-ste attack. from, we now ave travel strictions in place. you knowhat when you go to the airport. and i know t's n inconvenience. we try to do it as smoothly as possile. we havesa employees who a very dedicated tthat mission. but it makes the ar environnt fer. we have data now that we call when people arecoming into the ountry that we didn collect before certaiy didnt organize it and were abl to share it beore and do that. those two things alone probably would

but this ppens. it just happens. sometimes, whil the administrati needs it, is better in e long run. >> yonvestigate if it is a low level leak, sebody at the bottom of thpoll trying to influence policy. this clear -- i don't he insi information, but its import is so great that you have to imagine at the generals themselves or tir top aides were concerned abt the inacon on this recommention and ke sure it got out. i cannot imagine that this was unknown to anody the high command. in sense, it not so much a leak, it is a cllenge by the miliry again the civilian commander, who, onically, as we said, appointed the commander and you did eablish this strategy declaring it war of this -- and who did establish a strategy dlaring it a war necessity t military is sang if that true, what areou going toecide? >> i view it a little bit differently than that. i think that clearl, the pentagoand the people within wanted to focu the mds of the white house. i do not know ithey are necearily in opposition to o another. but mcchrtal sai

yosay no big deal, few billion dollars, ot that critical to health ce reform but if that ppens over d over and over agai he -- you really lose the heart of he legislation. >>ut isn't it tue as president ama keeps saying that in factthey're much fuher down the road than president bill clinton er got in yes. they he moved much more rapidly a made much more rogress in terms of committee action. >> of urse one of the things that killed linton's plan was position from instry. nobaucus i taking qui a t out. what dowe hear from the vaous stkeholders? gwen: and state governments who aren't happy about what they consider addional manedities formedicare coverage. >> all longthe idea has been to calibrate the pain so everyone suffe you alitt but there's not a fat below -- fatal bw to an ne. >> does tat mean mx baucus did a better job than people gaveim credit for? >> yes, he does desrve credit for keeping so mny peopleat gwen: you may have -- tptsjust t beginning becase you may have niced, the bate over alth care is only the tip of the iceberg. if you put urar to the ground iwashington these day

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that does not mean they did not ppen but it does not mean we need to demand the evidence and keep looking for it. >> host: thank you very much. it has been wonderful. >> guest: thank you. [applause] thank you very much. i am glad toee there's a big crowd here to speak to "pay to play" how d blagojevich turned political corrution into a national sideshow". elizabeth brackett will sign copies of this book right after in this event and i urge all of you to read it. this is one of the first bks that i do this every year this is the first time i have read the book. [laughter] but what they assigned me to do the author. i was the eager peter parker as a lo of peoe in illinois have been because as the story of our govern there were so many different dimensions i will ask her some questions you havea conversation for a short time that i would like some of you to take the microphone halfway through and i would like to hear your questions as well. by 12 start the conversation with with patti blagojevich in the governor's wife is on a reality tv sw called i am a celebrity, get me out of here. anody

. >> jimmy: and what's ing to ppen this season? >> good stuff happening this year.unity garden. [ laughter ] she has to go on a stakeout. there's a beauty pageanthe has to judge. everyone likes e hot girl, and she likes the girl with all the talent. fred arimsen is going to be a guest-star our show. and he comes and he's a guy from venezuela, our sister rk -- sister city, and he's the director of parks. and hehinks that our place is totally depressing and disgusting. and louis c.k louis c.k. is going to come on as a possible ve interest for my character. you guys love louis c.k, right? [ cheers anapplause ] >> mmy: he's fantasc. he's one of the best comedians, writers. we have clip you d louis c.k, from "parks and recreation." >> if you could just stop writing for a second, and just focus here. >> ma'am, ma'am, as i told you several timeslready, this is a police matter. >> well, it doesn't seem to matter. to the police! [ laughter ] >>kay. nice job with that. but -- [ laughter ] >> let me ask you a question. is it pocy of the pawnee policdepartment to arrest people

you're going to s some realignment and there's needs to be more politic realignment and some of it will ppen it will not be the two-party system with the republicans and the democrats but we are learning with blue dog democrats we don't have a two-party syst, whave a three party system and we are not the model of two party democracy. thanks. next. >> i'm from japan. and thank you very much for your presentation. but it seems to me your presentations made by politicians, that so many groups, the factions have made the dpj but, you know, it's not so different from the social democratic party. and for the citizens. and also, you know, the ldp made a commercial with a dog, they could manage it. [inaudible] >> made your co point but are being very optimistic on it? >> i'm not optimistic, i'm quite optimistic for all the reasons u said because of the basic public opinion polls, you know, when 80% of japanese, 20 to 29 think it's important. wh 75%f the japanese in almost all polls feel close ties to the u.s., that means something. you don't have to lk at the polls, y can step back what's happening

could conceivly ppen. >> brown: atwood a prolific masterf many genres, 17 vomes of poetry, essys, criticismd shor stories and 1 novels icluding the 2000 boor award winning "the bld assassin." she's perhaps best known still for her first foray io eculative fiction, a 1985 novel "he nd maid's tale" later made io a film which portyed a future world in whic women were sub gate and some owned by men for the sole purpose of beari children. her recent vel and now the year of the flood look at what could happen as huma medal with nature. >> my material comes fm reading quite a bit of what i called pop science which ans.... >> brown pop scice. >> which means i don't hve to do the map. your novel set in thefuture but we' reading deadly headlines abt swooin flu and sars. >> was i basing it on anything particar? no. because you don't nd to. it's o there. the one in my book is genetics alteration. one of the sry things about thtime we live in rit now is that we can combine genetic materials from different species. >> brown the mix scienc annature comes quit narally to atwood. both her parents were sign

mind-set changed that somehow you're titled to $1million a year or wtever, almost regardles of what ppens, i think is very difficult. but don't think you can do by t government jus announcing.... >> rose: so how can you do it? >> well, you know i'd like that think comi out of thi really difficult recessionould crte different mind-set. that's now specific action but i would thk in effect that business opion, public opinion would ve an effe on director's responsibilities. i've been on boas of directors they are extremely psive in this area. 's very hard, ey find, to tell their chief executive, you know, you're not going t be in upper 20.. percenle because we're a good company and we can't standif you'r below the midpoint that's a terrible thing that spils everything up. bu somebody's got to say, you ow, that nd of criteria ought t go outhe window. >> rose: how do y sa that? >> well, you can say that, how do you do it. >> rose:'shat i mean. yojust said it. how do yo do it? you do it by.... >> wl, the onething that i have some sympathy wh which drives business crazy is having at least a vote

do and that'sestroy the united states of america >> and what's the obama revoluti, what's going to ppen? >> similar to germany,ike what hitler did. he took over the ao industry, did he not? he took over the banking, d he not? and hitler had his ownersonal cret service police, acorn i extension of that. >> moyers: they hafound a new hero ijoe wilson, the south carolina republican whosshout ard around the world was now the rallying cryf the weekend. >> you l! you lie! >> moyers: glenn bec their favorite punt, had promoted this march and waseveling in its success. >> this is a colleion of americans who but wantoth parties to stowith the corrupon, stop with the spending and start lisning to the peop. fox's grf jenkins is there now in washington d.c., y griff. >> glenn its unbelvable, thousands anthousands of people, look at th crowd right there. do you guys have something y want to say to gnn beck? >> moyers: watchg those protestorsou would have to say there's a lot of fht left on the right, a you wouldn't be wrong. this ring tide of populist resistance to obama-- e anger over theassive gov

an in fact, ithink when you look asome of the institutionsopefully knock on wood it doesn't ppen-- we cod do this all over agai >> rose: and there was story in the la weekbout how wal street's beginning to develop these sortf very exotic security instruments again >> and as long as.... >> rose: not tide to morages but tied to otherinds of things. >> and that's going to ctinue becausthis is the like the wall street way. >> this is like water finding itown level. >> rose: (laughs) you look ate likewhat the hell do you think tlits f?" >> if there's piece meat on the plate, you ha to put a nce around the peat of meat or they're gog to eat ." wspaper and will the fence that they planorect, is high enough? >> well,hat is a serious question. >> rose: and ishere a debate within the administratn how high to make thesfens? >> i think theres and i don't know i it will be high enough in the end. i think someof the reforms that they're talking about what r somewhat tid in that i'm not su they go far engh. and when youook at frankly... i was starting with goldman sachs. when you lk at goldman sachs

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of our citizens can feel the positive effects of the stimulus that we intend more quickly thanill ppenin the normal course. i for one hope that we can and i look forward to exploring that with the witnesses today. this morning, overall, we're going to take a status check on what's been done so far. and ask about the capabilities of all levels of government, the performance of all levels of government, and administering recovery act programs as the pace of spending naturally will pick up, we've known all along that we would spend more in fiscal year 2010 than in fiscal year 2009. and, of course, we'll ask whether we can increase the pace of that spending even more. personally, i believe that much has been accomplishedince the recovery act wasassed as a result of the recovery. well, i'm going to not fall to the temptation of telling old jokes about economists never reaching a similar conclusion. i think from what i have read, most of them agree that the recovery act has helped halt america's economic slate and is pointing us and the private sector, helping the private sector toward a rec