pittsburgh paint, former sponsor of indy car, what's not to like. >> ppg. >> watch your potty mouth.f alta tanking, disappointing earnings sales an forecast. bring in a guy who's been, again, warning about this company for about two years now, getting all frothy and red faced would be, of course, herb greenberg. >> natural state actually. >> that's why i moved back to san diego to calm down a little bit but we love you, herb. warning about alta, a new ceo, why are you still concerned? >> i want to say something, and a lot of people say you warned about it and the stock went up, no reason to -- if you shorted the stock you lost money. it's not about shorting the stock. how many times do i have to say it's about the risk inherent and you want to pay attention to that risk. what is most interesting and what i wrote today in a column on the street and another one on cnbc.com, is that if you go back, there's a disconnect. go back a quarter ago be at the company's earnings call the new ceo, she was just on -- mary dillon just on the job for a quarter said we have a solid, long-term growth

chemical companies, dow chemical, ppg. these companies are all hostage to the economy. when it heats up, they all earn more money. investors pay less for the shares. so you've got consumer stap.els, drug stocks like pfizer or america. why is this the first pierce of wall street jargon i'm translating for you? because it helps you determine how much institutions are going to earn. the whole hedge fund play book is about when to buy and when to sell cyclical stocks or secular ones based on how the economies are doing. about 50% of the performance of my individual stock comes from its sector, which is a fancy word for a segment of the economy the stock falls into. tech, energy, health care, finance. much of the moves are determined by whether they fall into the secular or cyclical camps. cyclical means it's going to be a camp that in this particular market is going to get hammered when growth slows. secular, won't really impact you. their earnings could and often do fall apart. they can't make the estimates. as they have during every slowdown in the last decade and there's

take a look at that pop in ppg. >> if betake a look at facebook in the after hours sessions, interesting to see if it reversed. lack at that, down the 1.5%. >> what happened to him, josh? he disappeared? >> i have no idea. >> there's an empty chair. >> he likes to break out and pump a little iron. >> look at that. >> i guess so. >> vaccuous space. >> speaking of which, coming up next, it looks like -- >> there he is. getting ready for our next guest. >> putting down the mashed potatoes and stuffing and he's picking up the free weights. one stock that might work out quite well. we'll hear from the ceo of lifetime medic. >> melissa, can i stop now? >> muscle tee, tear them off. it's going well. >> this is exhausting. ♪ let me hear your body talk americans take care of business. they always have. they always will. that's why you take charge of your future. your retirement. ♪ ameriprise advisors can help you like they've helped millions of others. listening, planning, working one on one. to help you retire your way... with confidence. that's what ameriprise financial does. that's what they c

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if you get no, ma'amal growth up you're likely to get revenue growth up which support earn ppgs we'vesion this year. on forward earnings the market is still trading at a discount. we have a little bit of the valuation cushion that i don't think there's a risk in 2014 -- >> wait a minute. >> what? >> okay. this valuation issue is one that there's so much disagreement about. >> oh, yeah. >> you're saying the market is conservative here when there are others who would say the s&p is priced, you know, pricing in earnings growth in the range of 15% to 20% next year that's never going to be achievable. >> valuation is in the eye of the beholder. you could have somebody on your show that's a raving bear. they would probably point to the schiller cape as the rationale. you could look at trailing earnings in line with the market. forward earnings where the market is still trading at a discount. obviously then you have to plug in an e in the growth rate for that. i think it's probably mid to high single digits next year. with a discount to that. i don't think the market's cheap here. i just don

. >> we saw how great it was for ppg to get out of commodities. dupont with a stock rally.laying it out and i thought it was very, very positive. >> unh with an investor day today. in new york. they reaffirm the guidance for the year below the street. that's the third best dow stock in november up 9% in the month alone of november. >> i think people feel that the companies beneficiary of the chaos with the website. again, i mean, we are just beginning to find out what companies are involved with the problems of the website. so many different companies screwed up it looks like. really. i mean, it is like just a vast cornucopia of companies that didn't get this right. >> well, it may also have been the fault of who was employing them to try to do it, right? not that they were -- >> blaming the government, are you? >> just saying there's so many fathers of this defeat it is rather extraordinary. i continue to believe a month from now we'll sit here and say can you believe how thick the hatred is? how impossible it is to get anything done and that's what can cause january spill